The gun debate

Require and actually enforce that an adult with an ID matching the purchase name to sign for the package would be the easiest. Only a handful of States require ID checks for online ammo purchases. There is no Federal requirement.

It wouldnt even be a 2A law, its be an interstate commerce shipping gunpowder law.

The Colorado movie theater shooter also bought this ammo online, im sure a lot more mass shooters have as well.

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Where did he get the gun?

I wanted to focus on unlimited online ammo purchasing bc I think we can or should all agree that shouldnt be possible. When you get into "where did he get the gun" .... youre entering a territory where no sides will ever agree and its been debated ad nauseum.

Im trying to find one thing, even staunch 2As would support.

Mind blowing that a 13 year old with a prepaid visa gift card could buy 100 rounds of ammo right now.

I should have specified 21 or over as that what it said federal law was for internet purchase of ammo and fire arms. I mostly ship USPS and once in a while Fedex or UPS. You can only specify "Adult Signature Required" that would be anyone 18+ that answers the door at the delivery address. Nowhere is it found a specific person has to sign for the package or someone 21+. I do agree that a 13 year old should not be able to order ammo with a debit card. I am pretty sure a lot of those places take Paypal that you can sign up for using an anonymous e-mail address.

Also if you are in a secure area most often a driver will leave packages that require signatures if no one is home.

Yeah while suicides are terrible, it’s misleading in the gun debate.

NO it isn't . If mental health is an issue(and it is) doesn't matter if the gunman is taking their own lifes or anyone else's.............it's a problem.

So now we are blaming guns for suicides? A person hell bent on killing themselves isn't going to decide not to do it if their method of choice isn't immediately handy, they are either going to wait to acquire the items to execute their method of choice or switch to plan B.

While firearms are used in half of suicides, suffocation and poisoning account for the next 40%. There is no correlation between the availability of guns to the suicide rate, that one is easy to look up.

The right to bear arms wasn't written into the constitution to enable suicides. People with what we today call mental health issues would have been institutionalized, or died very early, or kept with family and church. Our gun debate, like everything else in this country is so far astray from the point of originality that I am not sure it - or other things - can ever be resolved without a constitutional convention or amendments.

So now we are blaming guns for suicides? A person hell bent on killing themselves isn't going to decide not to do it if their method of choice isn't immediately handy, they are either going to wait to acquire the items to execute their method of choice or switch to plan B.

While firearms are used in half of suicides, suffocation and poisoning account for the next 40%. There is no correlation between the availability of guns to the suicide rate, that one is easy to look up.

Please learn to read and stop your sky is falling attitude. There are mental health issues that must be addressed and yes suicides (some of them) are a direct result of having access to guns while in a bad mental state as are many mass shootings . Correct?

Please learn to read and stop your sky is falling attitude. There are mental health issues that must be addressed and yes suicides (some of them) are a direct result of having access to guns while in a bad mental state as are many mass shootings . Correct?


It seems you are one of those people that think the louder they yell and more they insult people the more righteous they are. Suicides are not the direct result of access to guns, could you make a more stupid statement? Gun access has became more difficult as suicides have risen. I don't think you are as out of touch with reality as you project, you just get joy out of trying to annoy people. You constantly deny facts and statistics. I would like to see someone come out and say they will never think of suicide again because on the days they wanted to kill themselves a gun wasn't handy.
Where the hell do you get all the moronic crap you come up with? Please go back to obsessing over Trump 24-7 as you do.

It seems you are one of those people that think the louder they yell and more they insult people the more righteous they are. Suicides are not the direct result of access to guns, could you make a more stupid statement? Gun access has became more difficult as suicides have risen. I don't think you are as out of touch with reality as you project, you just get joy out of trying to annoy people. You constantly deny facts and statistics. I would like to see someone come out and say they will never think of suicide again because on the days they wanted to kill themselves a gun wasn't handy.
Where the hell do you get all the moronic crap you come up with? Please go back to obsessing over Trump 24-7 as you do.

Again you're bitching and no facts.You seriously have a reading comprehension problem. When you know your wrong you pull out your trump crybaby card.

Again you're bitching and no facts.You seriously have a reading comprehension problem. When you know your wrong you pull out your trump crybaby card.

Go fuck off and die,. you know I do not like Trump you are just trying to be the pathetic annoying piece of crap that you are. You are a pathetic loser.

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Not really. I have been trying to be civil to that A-hole for as long as I could take it. He reminds me of a friend of 35 years I no longer speak to as when Trump was elected he started berating the hell out of anyone who wasn't 100% democrat. His game is mostly just insult people without reason. Him and G-1 are cut from the same cloth.