Warthog
01-18-2020, 09:15 AM
I wouldn't be too sure that it's all in the past for TW. Snyder is still here and he just sat back, watched and did nothing to prevent BA from treating TW so poorly. I know that I'd be pissed off at Snyder if I were in TW's position.
Trent in his press conferences went out of his way to thank Snyder for his help in his cancer situation. Snyder let TW use his jet to get to the right hospital. That’s the kind of stuff that will help get Trent back.
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Ebron is a dumpster fire. If you can’t put up solid numbers with Matthew Stafford throwing to you, you need to GTFOH.
He was legit with Luck in Indy in 2018, 66 catches and 13 TDS
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SkinzWin
01-18-2020, 10:27 AM
He was legit with Luck in Indy in 2018, 66 catches and 13 TDS
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Okay I’ll give you one season. 2018 he had top 5 TD numbers in the league. Zero other seasons has he had more than 5 TD in a season. Only one other season over 700 yards receiving. Every other season was 300-500 yards receiving. Not impressive as far as I’m concerned to only have one good season as long as he’s been playing with a top tier QB like Stafford.
Okay I’ll give you one season. 2018 he had top 5 TD numbers in the league. Zero other seasons has he had more than 5 TD in a season. Only one other season over 700 yards receiving. Every other season was 300-500 yards receiving. Not impressive as far as I’m concerned to only have one good season as long as he’s been playing with a top tier QB like Stafford.
But I hear your point, personally I’d rather draft someone than spend big on Ebron
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skinsfan69
01-18-2020, 11:54 AM
Ebron is the type of guy that will get overpaid in free agency. Him and Hooper. I would prefer to let Kyle Smith do his thing and come up with a TE in the mid rounds.
Look at Kittle? Complete TE that can do it all and is durable, 5th rounder. Kelce? 3rd rounder. Two of the best TE's are not 1st or 2nd rounders..
Kittle is going to reset the TE market and raise the salaries. Hooper, Ebron and others will no doubt get overpaid. I'd rather take the free agency money and get another corner or o-linemen.
Warthog
01-18-2020, 12:44 PM
I think we’ll go into FA for TE with some money AND draft for the position this year. Right now we have NOTHING in the TE spot and we can’t just HOPE a draft pick will fill that gapping chasm.
I like Hooper over Ebron but Kyle will know the best player!
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Warthog
01-18-2020, 12:50 PM
Isn’t it great that we actually have real player scouts and evaluators instead of that numbnut Bruce Allen.
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skinsfan69
01-18-2020, 03:15 PM
I actually thought Hentges looked ok.
Chico23231
01-18-2020, 04:11 PM
Ebron is the type of guy that will get overpaid in free agency. Him and Hooper. I would prefer to let Kyle Smith do his thing and come up with a TE in the mid rounds.
Look at Kittle? Complete TE that can do it all and is durable, 5th rounder. Kelce? 3rd rounder. Two of the best TE's are not 1st or 2nd rounders..
Kittle is going to reset the TE market and raise the salaries. Hooper, Ebron and others will no doubt get overpaid. I'd rather take the free agency money and get another corner or o-linemen.
Look you are going to overpay in free agency 2 out of 3 times, but that’s the penalty you pay when you are negligent for years at TE.
Turner offense will require performance at TE and you can’t afford to swing and miss in the draft with an mid round selection. We absolutely should draft and sign a free agent TE. My best case scenario right now is Cameron Brate cut and we sign to a more reasonable deal than an Ebron/henry/hooper will fetch. Then draft the guy we want in the mid round...let him come in pressure free and learning in a new system.
But ebron, Henry and hooper will pay dividends immediately in our system. We have the cap room and paid 15 million for nothing last year. Why not get a baller?
Also look at receiver in free agency...that’s exactly where you would be stupid to spend money there with less proven or older guys coming off injuries...I’m gonna be fuckin livid If we hand out a Paul Richardson contract to WR in this free agency class.
But you point about not spending a 1st round on TE...I agree. TE and RB should rarely be taken in the first.
skinsfan69
01-19-2020, 01:51 PM
Look you are going to overpay in free agency 2 out of 3 times, but that’s the penalty you pay when you are negligent for years at TE.
Turner offense will require performance at TE and you can’t afford to swing and miss in the draft with an mid round selection. We absolutely should draft and sign a free agent TE. My best case scenario right now is Cameron Brate cut and we sign to a more reasonable deal than an Ebron/henry/hooper will fetch. Then draft the guy we want in the mid round...let him come in pressure free and learning in a new system.
But ebron, Henry and hooper will pay dividends immediately in our system. We have the cap room and paid 15 million for nothing last year. Why not get a baller?
Also look at receiver in free agency...that’s exactly where you would be stupid to spend money there with less proven or older guys coming off injuries...I’m gonna be fuckin livid If we hand out a Paul Richardson contract to WR in this free agency class.
But you point about not spending a 1st round on TE...I agree. TE and RB should rarely be taken in the first.
I agree with overpaying in free agency. But the positions that I feel you do not overpay for in FA are RB, WR, safety and TE.
TE's are one of the more easier positions to get w/out paying a lot for. There are so many of them in the league right now and a lot are drafted in the 3rd round on. It's a position I feel you go get in the 3rd to 5th rounds. That is why I feel there is no need to overpay for players like Hopoer or Ebron. You can probably get their production in the draft and have them for 4 years paying cheap costs.
I would most certainly overpay for a RT cause I can't take another year of Moses shitting all over himself. I would overpay to resign Scherff. If RR chooses to keep Trent for a couple more years then overpay him.