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Schneed10 01-01-2020, 01:49 PM I don't think Trent will settle for a one-two year extension here. That would just put him in a tougher position to get another contract being two-three years older... It's probably going to have to be 4+ years or a trade. We'll see if he even changes his stance about wanting to return, but as always, money talks and will likely be the deciding factor.
You might be right. If he wants something like four years and $17M per, with a big chunk of it guaranteed, it no longer can be an Emotional Intelligence driven decision. It then has to be a long term business decision driven by what’s best for our cap.
The part BHA is missing - as usual - is our cap situation for the next two years. We are absolutely flushed with cap space. We almost have more than we can use. We could easily give Trent $35M guaranteed over the next two years, fully guaranteed, making him a Skin for the next two seasons, and it literally would not constrain our cap situation one iota.
If that’s not good enough for him then this was a money play for him all along. This is a good way to figure out where his heart is, right a lot of wrongs, and galvanize the locker room and the fans. If he wants a big contract like you suspect, then you move on to making the best business decision you can, which is probably a trade.
But you might as well find out first.
Warthog 01-01-2020, 08:49 PM Some people make no sense here. I wonder if the same people complaining about the burned up money on injured players like Alex Smith, Jordan Reed, Vernon Davis, etc,etc, want to extend a player who will be 32 with a history of multiple nagging injuries with a 4 year deal with a good chunk of guaranteed money.
All the guys we are going to release are largely failures, hurt too much or are not playing up to the level of their salary. Trent has had a year to renew, both physically or mentally. He is still the best OL on this team. He is still in the top of the NFL for OT.
Keep him and fill a big hole on the team. Penn was a one year bandaid.
We still have to draft with our top picks ( third or fourth rounder) for the OL. But resigning Trent, Scherff and Flowers stabilizes our OL. We.’ll get two years out of Trent, by that time we can have drafted his replacement.
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mooby 01-02-2020, 12:06 AM You might be right. If he wants something like four years and $17M per, with a big chunk of it guaranteed, it no longer can be an Emotional Intelligence driven decision. It then has to be a long term business decision driven by what’s best for our cap.
The part BHA is missing - as usual - is our cap situation for the next two years. We are absolutely flushed with cap space. We almost have more than we can use. We could easily give Trent $35M guaranteed over the next two years, fully guaranteed, making him a Skin for the next two seasons, and it literally would not constrain our cap situation one iota.
If that’s not good enough for him then this was a money play for him all along. This is a good way to figure out where his heart is, right a lot of wrongs, and galvanize the locker room and the fans. If he wants a big contract like you suspect, then you move on to making the best business decision you can, which is probably a trade.
But you might as well find out first.
How dare you use logic and reasoning to make your case about how to proceed?
Trent's a huge piece of shit! HEADS MUST ROLL.
SkinzWin 01-02-2020, 12:34 AM No one has mentioned he’s one joint away from a 1 year suspension. Need to have an opt out if he gets pegged for hitting the ganja again. Doubt he’d go for that though.
Warthog 01-02-2020, 09:21 AM There are a lot of very recent media articles on Trent (since the firing of BA) which give a lot of hints that TW will “consider” coming back here. That tells me he is open to renegotiation of his contract, versus just issuing a flat rejection.
It’s up to Rivera about whether he wants TW back and whether our new HC thinks that Trent can be part of a revitalized and disciplined Redskin team. His attitude while talking to Rivera will be more important than his playing ability. If he can soak up the new culture of “winning” he might be invited back!
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CRedskinsRule 01-02-2020, 10:29 AM No one has mentioned he’s one joint away from a 1 year suspension. Need to have an opt out if he gets pegged for hitting the ganja again. Doubt he’d go for that though.He has been one joint away for a long time now. It might be a factor when trying to trade him but I doubt it is much of a leverage point in contract negotiations.
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CRedskinsRule 01-06-2020, 01:57 PM John Keim Twitter
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With a new coach, new athletic trainer and no Bruce Allen... will be interesting to see what happens with Trent Williams. ...
He went on to repost a conversation that he had with TW in December where TW didn't flat out say no to returning if BA was gone.
I am sure it's about the guaranteed money in his contract, but I think if the Skins/Rivera talk with TW they could work out the money. At this point, I think TW coming back happy would send a far more important message that things are different then trading him would.
BigHairedAristocrat 01-06-2020, 02:01 PM He went on to repost a conversation that he had with TW in December where TW didn't flat out say no to returning if BA was gone.
I am sure it's about the guaranteed money in his contract, but I think if the Skins/Rivera talk with TW they could work out the money. At this point, I think TW coming back happy would send a far more important message that things are different then trading him would.
Smart teams in rebuild modes don't give an aging, injury prone player the kind of money TW wants. They trade them for draft picks and use their cap space to sign young, rising, players.
CRedskinsRule 01-06-2020, 02:20 PM Smart teams in rebuild modes don't give an aging, injury prone player the kind of money TW wants. They trade them for draft picks and use their cap space to sign young, rising, players.
Generally true, BUT we have an extremely young team, and we are in a good position regarding the cap. In addition, I think TW's main concern is the guaranteed money, not necessarily being the top paid OT, I think you can take the 10 Million he was due in 2019 tack it to a 2020 and 2021 guaranteed contract and get him back on board and bring a team voice back in a positive way. If you can't make the money work, ie he wants top 5 OT numbers and excessive years guaranteed, then you trade him. But remember, he called out BA as racist, he is one failed test away from a year suspension, he was out for a year(that may help or hurt his value), so I don't think it's a slam dunk a team is going to trade like they would have during training camp (thanks so much BA)
Chico23231 01-06-2020, 02:30 PM Either way that it goes...this should be the absolutely first thing we need to figure out. Like immediately.
When cant afford to sit around and lollygag with the LT position...its too fucking important
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