The Haskins Threat

His qbr and rating on espn - which i dont understand either- are the worst in the game and it isn’t even close. I do understand that can’t be good at all. Unless they model their scores after golf.

This part is a yes, all overages / schemes are charted every game.

Cool, it’s important.

My biggest want from PFF would be more data to support the overall grade. As an Example, they should chart items for defense such as: missed tackle/opportunity to tackle..like a tackling percentage, blown coverage responsibly in the secondary, number of times defenders get hands on ball, etc.

Offense I would like more numbers like yards after contact, tackles broken, completion percentage by pass catchers, completion percentages broken down by air yards for qb, etc. olinemen: missed blocks, key block responsibility which lead to loss of yards and key block responsibility which lead to breaking a big play.

Also, penalties responsibility by each player and total yards cost.

Make it happen...

His qbr and rating on espn - which i dont understand either- are the worst in the game and it isn’t even close. I do understand that can’t be good at all. Unless they model their scores after golf.

Now that's the positive thinking I like to see Lloyd Christmas. So you're telling me there's a chance he's actually awesome?

His qbr and rating on espn - which i dont understand either- are the worst in the game and it isn’t even close. I do understand that can’t be good at all. Unless they model their scores after golf.

I think QBR is nothing but fun with numbers, it never made a lot of sense to me and I think the formula is a big secret.

I think QBR is nothing but fun with numbers, it never made a lot of sense to me and I think the formula is a big secret.



I know but when you take a look at the leaders and than the guys down near Haskins it seems fairly in tune with reality

Cool, it’s important.

My biggest want from PFF would be more data to support the overall grade. As an Example, they should chart items for defense such as: missed tackle/opportunity to tackle..like a tackling percentage, blown coverage responsibly in the secondary, number of times defenders get hands on ball, etc.

Offense I would like more numbers like yards after contact, tackles broken, completion percentage by pass catchers, completion percentages broken down by air yards for qb, etc. olinemen: missed blocks, key block responsibility which lead to loss of yards and key block responsibility which lead to breaking a big play.

Also, penalties responsibility by each player and total yards cost.

Make it happen...

Me too my man haha, It's in the works

I know but when you take a look at the leaders and than the guys down near Haskins it seems fairly in tune with reality

Very true. However, his QBR has been doubling almost every game. There’s a very clear trajectory that also seems in tune with reality. Every game he plays seems to be better than the one before.

Haskins has his best game against a decent team who HAD TO WIN to stay in a playoff position in the crappy NFC East. In just his 6th NFL game he posted a QB rating of 121 (max is 154) with 2 TD’s, no INT and NO sacks. He showed grit and situational awareness in a critical running play in the red zone, that helped lead to a TD. He also had two passes go through the hands of Steve Sims, including one in the end zone (although Sims redeemed himself later with a great catch in the back of the end zone).

I am curious first about all the posters who thought the team should SIT Haskins for his entire first season or more. What do you say now?

There are others, including myself, who have questioned whether he had that “it” factor to be an elite QB. One game does not a career make and we’ll have to see if he can keep it up next week against the Giants.

After this season he and Redskins fans has some things to look forward to in 2020:

1. I believe the Redskins will make a FA play for the best TE available in the NFL. This will help out his passing game because we have awful TE game-fillers right now, who can’t get open, nor catch, nor block. Reed and Davis are done.

2. I believe Snyder will hire a offensive-centered HC, who can only help improve this offense and Haskins.

3. Depending on whether we are in a draft position to draft Chase Young or whether he even IS in the year’s draft, I believe we’ll draft OT Andrew Thomas or the best OT available. He’ll go into Trent’s or Mose’s spot. I think we.’ll draft two OL draft picks to solidify the OL with new talent and youth.

4. Haskins will be able to work on his QB skills in the off season.

His performance today was impressive and I might remind everyone that even QB greats like Peyton Manning has TERRIBLE rookie seasons.


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I'm curious on the grading of happiness this week.

He looked much improved. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Anecdotally, he seems to be improving.

Not being excited about anything with this team, I'm open to being excited about him in the future...

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Major improvement, he didn't take any sacks, and didn't have any interceptions. The footwork and throwing motion are becoming more consistent. He still threw off his back foot and side armed a couple short passes. As his fundamentals improve and become more consistent, so does the accuracy, amazing! The arm strength is nuts. I seems like he can throw a 30 yard dart with just a flick of the wrist.