SunnySide
10-07-2019, 06:09 PM
You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...
Couple of things to untie. Juts my opinions.
1. I dont think Jay didnt want Haskins, he just didnt want Haskins at 15 overall.
2. Id say the majority of fans agree that Haskins is not ready-ready. I think the fan divide is what is best for Haskins long term - (1) play the kid and let him learn by fire, he will only learn if he gets live reps, or (2) play the vets and bring the kid along until he is better prepared to read defenses, slide protections, etc.
3. I dont think many people are saying Haskins was a blown pick. Way to early to tell. I think fan divide comes into just how much of a project he is. Me personally, I think Daniel Jones starting for 4 years or so was way more prepared to start than Dwayne Haskins and his 14 games at OSU.
I think he is a project and even though he spurned the Terps and my view of Haskins is coming from a negative place .. his arm talent is there and he seems to hang tough in the pocket perhaps to tough to relaxed imo.
He has the tools, I just dont like him turning into an RG3 light with his liking of an instagram post of Jays firing and some other stuff. Apparently with RG3 in meetings he would repeatedly say "yeah I got it, i got it" then come game time not have a clue.
rocnrik
10-07-2019, 06:20 PM
Good points !!! It will be interesting to see this play out.
punch it in
10-07-2019, 06:24 PM
Don’t get why everyone is excited about bieniemy as an option. He doesn’t even call plays. The KC offense is 100% Andy Reid.
The only type of coach who could succeed here is one who, through his reputation, would demand respect by Bruce and Dan. Someone with enough cache that they’d give him total control of football operations and stay the hell out of his way.
I don’t see anyone like that you wanting to come here. Of the 3 names mentioned, only Tomlin MIGHT garner that level of respect, but we’d have to trade a lot to acquire him and I’m not sure he could even be successful.
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Idk. Shanahan wasn’t exactly a success. Schottenheimer. Gibbs 2.0. Nobody is gonna flourish under this smug jackass. It isn’t a secret either. We will get another yes man and BA will continue to draft poorly. Honestly I hate to beat a dead horse but nothing changes until Douche Snyder is gone and that is never.....
We have one faint hope. That is whoever we hire turns out to be a great coach and wins sooner than later, at which point Danny sits back n smiles and orders BA to do the same. It would have to happen organically and by a sheer stroke of luck when Snyder hires someone.
punch it in
10-07-2019, 06:33 PM
You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...
Haskins was a unique player in college. He played such a limited amount of games, but played so well. It is unusual to see someone so good but with such a small sample size. If they didn’t take him at 15 he would have probably been gone before they got another chance.
So I don’t think we “blew” the pick. I think it is just typical Redskin luck that of all the quarterbacks who have been drafted high and plugged in as starters over the last few years that we got the one who only played 14 games in college......
skinsfan69
10-07-2019, 08:00 PM
Don’t get why everyone is excited about bieniemy as an option. He doesn’t even call plays. The KC offense is 100% Andy Reid.
The only type of coach who could succeed here is one who, through his reputation, would demand respect by Bruce and Dan. Someone with enough cache that they’d give him total control of football operations and stay the hell out of his way.
I don’t see anyone like that you wanting to come here. Of the 3 names mentioned, only Tomlin MIGHT garner that level of respect, but we’d have to trade a lot to acquire him and I’m not sure he could even be successful.
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EB is well respected around the league, in his own locker room and has paid his dues. I would suspect that Reid would tell him not to come here and wait for a better job.
SolidSnake84
10-07-2019, 08:03 PM
Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?
Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?
DYoungJelly
10-07-2019, 08:19 PM
Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?
Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?There is a fair shot if for no other reason than the Manusky situation from last off season; nobody else wants to come here.
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punch it in
10-07-2019, 08:50 PM
Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?
Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?
Indian Brave is that you? 7-9. 8-8? That is not ever happening.
Like D- Young said. There is a good chance nobody wants to come here and it is his by default. If he finishes 7-9 or 8-8 with this team not only make him the HC, put him in the ring of honor. Shit put him in the Hall of fuckin Fame.
Giantone
10-07-2019, 09:11 PM
Well it is that time again, although this turn seemed a bit overdue. Gruden was terrible at calling plays, and terrible at selecting his staff. He failed miserably at selecting a DC. He was horrible at halftime adjustments. So imo he was the wrong guy, up against Dan and Bruce or not. Who will the next guy be? Who donyou want it to be? I cant stop thinking Urban Meyer. He isn’t currently coaching and Haskins and McLaurin are a draw for him.
Does it even matter though? Will DS and BA say all the right things about team control and than pull their strings from yachts and luxury boxes? Will the new HC have the insight to let DS know BA has to go?
I'm betting someone from Ohio State, who was the QB coach there when Haskins was there?
skinsfan69
10-07-2019, 09:16 PM
If Haskins is a project, which by all means it looks like he is, then it was a bad pick. On a bad team you need that #15 pick to be playing. Instead he's playing behind a couple of cast offs who may be out of the league this time next year. Callahan today seemed like he wan't in a rush to play him and said he wasn't playing him against a pathetic football team that's tanking.
This one is on Dan if it doesn't work out. And he will take no responsibility for it if it doesn't.