jamf
12-04-2019, 07:37 PM
Dan has become Al Davis.
This will be the offseason of Jim Zorn V2.0.
Greg Manusky will be the 2020 HC of the Redskins.
This will be the offseason of Jim Zorn V2.0.
Greg Manusky will be the 2020 HC of the Redskins.
Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?Pages :
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jamf 12-04-2019, 07:37 PM Dan has become Al Davis. This will be the offseason of Jim Zorn V2.0. Greg Manusky will be the 2020 HC of the Redskins. DYoungJelly 12-04-2019, 10:38 PM Didn't it come out after Jay's firing that Jay wanted Manusky gone but he (Gruden) did not have the power to hire / fire staff?He and Bill Callahan hated each other the whole time. I don't believe Jay had the power to do much more than draft a dude in the 5th round. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk Buffalo Bob 12-05-2019, 10:33 AM Leadership, teaching, mentoring player evaluation and organizational skills are just as important. I think it was Jimmy Johnson or Tony Kornheiser or Micheal Wilbon that said yesterday the that the state of coaching in the NFL is the worst we have seen is 50 years. I think a big part of that is the state the players are in when they arrive in the NFL today. A Dwayne Haskins with extremely poor fundamentals was an extreme rarity decades ago, now they are common place. I think it is an effect of the lack of discipline and the levels of contact in practice from days gone by. Combine that with the win at all cost attitude of some of the major college programs and you have the end result of what you see today. I think the trend away from negative reinforcement toward "atta boys" and participation trophies has had a negative effect. Back when I played in High School and College 40 years ago your typical coach at those levels was the Vince Lombardi hard ass type. Dumb mistakes were meet with a reward of running laps, wind sprints or being called out and embarrassed in front of your teammates. These days I read where High School coaches have been fired for cussing at players. I see players walk off the field while committing stupid personal foul penalties without being confronted by a coach or fellow players. I could only image what would happen to a player if they did the "dog peeing" act celebrating a touchdown if Woody Hayes was coaching them. OmahaRedskins 12-05-2019, 11:40 AM Here is a thought and I haven't seen it asked before. If we can Bruce and bring in a new GM. The GM will most likely bring in his people, including a head coach and medical staff. Would Trent come back? He has said many times, his issue is not with Dan but with Bruce. Buffalo Bob 12-05-2019, 12:00 PM Here is a thought and I haven't seen it asked before. If we can Bruce and bring in a new GM. The GM will most likely bring in his people, including a head coach and medical staff. Would Trent come back? He has said many times, his issue is not with Dan but with Bruce. Why would you want him back, after what he pulled? We probably will never know the whole story, but it was pretty obvious Trent had plenty of responsibility toward the break down of the relationship with the team. Common sense should have dictated he should have immediately sought medical treatment outside of the team doctors. OmahaRedskins 12-05-2019, 12:05 PM Why would you want him back, after what he pulled? We probably will never know the whole story, but it was pretty obvious Trent had plenty of responsibility toward the break down of the relationship with the team. Common sense should have dictated he should have immediately sought medical treatment outside of the team doctors. I agree with everything you said. We have a lot of holes to fill and limit draft picks. Getting one more year out of him would help. punch it in 12-05-2019, 01:34 PM Why would you want him back, after what he pulled? We probably will never know the whole story, but it was pretty obvious Trent had plenty of responsibility toward the break down of the relationship with the team. Common sense should have dictated he should have immediately sought medical treatment outside of the team doctors. I just cannot fathom that after years of TW giving his all to this organization(knowing how dysfunctional it was) that he suddenly went full jerk off. Like you said we don’t know the whole story. That being said there is no way he comes back Bruce or no Bruce. And even if he would this dipshit owner will make sure the worst gm in the league comes back before a HOF LT does. BigHairedAristocrat 12-05-2019, 02:23 PM I just cannot fathom that after years of TW giving his all to this organization(knowing how dysfunctional it was) that he suddenly went full jerk off. Like you said we don’t know the whole story. That being said there is no way he comes back Bruce or no Bruce. And even if he would this dipshit owner will make sure the worst gm in the league comes back before a HOF LT does. I don't think its as complicated as it seems if you sift through all the noise and look at what we do know. The timeline is pretty clear, even from Trent's perspective, that this all started when he asked Allen to redo his contract to give him more guaranteed money and Allen said No. If Trent really had an issue with the way the team handled the medical situation, he would have filed a grievance with the NFLPA. But he didn't. Instead, when the team petitioned the league and NFLPA to investigate, Trent refused to allow it. Its abundantly clear that, although there are probably a lot of emotions and hard feelings involved on both sides, this really is all about money. The Redskins made Trent the highest paid LT in the league. They gave him a front-loaded deal, which means they paid him more money in the early years, and no guaranteed money in the last year. Trent knew the contract he was getting when he signed it - it favored him, not the team. So really, by asking for a new deal when he did, he was trying to have his cake and eat it to. He was essentially wanting every year that he plays to have a high amount of the money guaranteed, but that's not the deal he signed. Bruce Allen is a lying snake and he needs to go. But so is Trent and so does he. If we really want to change the culture here, we cant tolerate the behavior of either of them. MTK 12-05-2019, 03:01 PM If Bruce is canned and suddenly TW is cool with playing here I’d take him back, but I’d also consider trade offers for him Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk BigHairedAristocrat 12-05-2019, 03:08 PM If Bruce is canned and suddenly TW is cool with playing here I’d take him back, but I’d also consider trade offers for him Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That would require a new contract. I cant imagine a new coach/GM would want to give significant money to an older player with injury concerns, risk of suspension, who held out a year over greed and threw the organization under the bus. But who knows, maybe they would decide he was enough of a talent upgrade over Penn or a similar veteran to be worth it. |
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