SFREDSKIN
11-04-2019, 10:37 AM
Which players has Kyle Smith personally picked over the last two years?
Last I heard picking players was a group effort, with Allen, Smith, Doug Williams, and Gruden all having input (up until this year when popular opinion is that Gruden was ousted from the group).
https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim/status/994252815898955776
https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim/status/1122264957389873153
Look who created the draft board
mooby
11-04-2019, 03:05 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim/status/994252815898955776
https://mobile.twitter.com/john_keim/status/1122264957389873153
Look who created the draft board
You're not showing me anything I haven't already seen. I'm already on the record as being a Kyle Smith fan. Just asking you where you draw the line between giving Kyle Smith all the credit for this draft class and giving the other major-decision makers credit too?
My entire point in this convo is you seem determined to give Mayhew the credit for John Lynch's success and the success SF has had building a team. I'm not sold on Mayhew leading a team just because of that. He's already tried to lead a dogshit franchise out of the dumpster and failed. We're not San Fran, we don't build teams the right way, and we've seen many a successful man come to this organization and have his name tarnished by the time he leaves. I don't think Mayhew is the guy that's going to buck that trend.
Warthog
11-10-2019, 04:28 AM
You're not showing me anything I haven't already seen. I'm already on the record as being a Kyle Smith fan. Just asking you where you draw the line between giving Kyle Smith all the credit for this draft class and giving the other major-decision makers credit too?
My entire point in this convo is you seem determined to give Mayhew the credit for John Lynch's success and the success SF has had building a team. I'm not sold on Mayhew leading a team just because of that. He's already tried to lead a dogshit franchise out of the dumpster and failed. We're not San Fran, we don't build teams the right way, and we've seen many a successful man come to this organization and have his name tarnished by the time he leaves. I don't think Mayhew is the guy that's going to buck that trend.
Moo by, at the very least, Kyle Smith was the leader of the draft “selection committee”. He was the main source of player names. The Redskins have had two pretty successful drafts under that leadership in the last two years. Reward that success with a move up. I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE he is better than that numbnut Bruce Allen.
With the current owner Kyle Smith could get more autonomy than ever before, because Snyder knows him. I see no GM candidates of note coming here from the outside with current chaos and dysfunction. Someone of Smith’s talent could stop a lot of the buffoonery caused by BA’s incompetence.
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mooby
11-10-2019, 04:45 PM
Moo by, at the very least, Kyle Smith was the leader of the draft “selection committee”. He was the main source of player names. The Redskins have had two pretty successful drafts under that leadership in the last two years. Reward that success with a move up. I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE he is better than that numbnut Bruce Allen.
With the current owner Kyle Smith could get more autonomy than ever before, because Snyder knows him. I see no GM candidates of note coming here from the outside with current chaos and dysfunction. Someone of Smith’s talent could stop a lot of the buffoonery caused by BA’s incompetence.
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That's a low bar to set.
I like Kyle Smith too Warthog, my only concern with him is his mind potentially being corrupted by working in the suck with Bruce Allen. God forbid he looks at how Bruce Allen operates and thinks he's a good leader to model after.
skinsfaninok
11-10-2019, 09:14 PM
U guys still think Tomlin is overrated?
punch it in
11-11-2019, 01:08 PM
U guys still think Tomlin is overrated?
Well i do think the Rams stink.
punch it in
11-11-2019, 01:10 PM
Steelers will finish 9-7. Lose to the good teams and beat the bad ones but they got no quarterback so....
Warthog
11-14-2019, 07:15 AM
The only way a talented, NFL-proven, HC comes here is if he gets far more power and autonomy than had been offered before. Unless this new HC is coming here JUST for the $$$MONEY, only, he must know the history and what the Snyder/Allen oversight has cost every single prior coach before him.
That may be the best course of action, getting a talented, NFL OC or DC , who INSISTS on massive autonomy to include removing Bruce Allen from his GM position and pushing Snyder out of his manipulations. Doubtful but we can still hope!
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punch it in
11-14-2019, 01:18 PM
I’m just going to leave this here....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191114/98554b140ba1d0e40c10226264936e2d.jpg
Warthog
11-15-2019, 09:38 AM
It’s all up to Snyder: dump his buddy Bruce Allen and hire from the NFL talent pool of hot OC or DC’s.
OR hire from within the Redskins organization or hire some bizzaro-choice (e.g., like Jim Zorn - a QB coach) from way outside the decent choices so that he and BA can continue to play around and meddle while the team tanks.
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