How Low Can We Go? Redskins @ Giants Postgame Thread

Notice that HaHa and Preston Smith make the highlight reels now.

And Breeland and Murphy.

And Holtz is a legit contributor for the bears.

I just can't get past the Giants rushing for 150 plus yards w/out SaQuan. I can't get past the Giants beating our asses 40 -0 at home last year w/ a lot of these same guys. Manusky sucks but the players have to be accountable too for missing tackles, not sacking a rookie QB, blowing assignments and making numerous stupid fouls.

I don't understand all the hype for Tua. I don't think he'll be nearly as good in the NFL as in college. Haskins > Tua. I would be fucking livid if we pulled off what the Cardinals did.

If we have # 1 pick, keep Haskins and sell to the highest bidder. And just go ham with offensive line picks throughout the draft.

I'm cutting Moses and Penn is old. So we need at least 2 new starters there.

Coaching is definitely the majority of our problem. We have guys that Saban won big with in college. We have issues with scheme, strategy, play calling, motivation, and discipline.

The front office deserve tons of blame too - Bruce is the reason we don't have Cousins right now and that's enough in and of itself to fire the douche.

But this is 8-8 talent and Gruden can't even get them to look competitive against the Giants. It's pretty clear Gruden was propped up big time by some impressive assistant coaches early in his Redskins tenure. Without them he looks like shit.

Coaching is definitely the majority of our problem. We have guys that Saban won big with in college. We have issues with scheme, strategy, play calling, motivation, and discipline.

The front office deserve tons of blame too - Bruce is the reason we don't have Cousins right now and that's enough in and of itself to fire the douche.

But this is 8-8 talent and Gruden can't even get them to look competitive against the Giants. It's pretty clear Gruden was propped up big time by some impressive assistant coaches early in his Redskins tenure. Without them he looks like shit.

I figured this would be a 6-7 win team but damn they may not win 1 game seriously

I'm not surprised because this is what we've been reduced to,can anyone say-P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C..oh and our next opponent almost lost yesterday and they're gonna be pissed when they get here,did I mention that they happen to be the camps of the league while we're the chumps of the league..I'm calling it now-Pats 51-Skins 14!!!

How fun will it be when manusky has been the dc for 2 0-16 teams..

Is it on the coaching staff though? Do we really think our coaches and Saban for the matter never coached Ryan Anderson up about a boot leg?

Or perhaps Ryan Anderson is just a tweener and a JAG. To small to play the line, to slow in speed and reaction, to slow to read and react. A special teams at best player who is too small and slow who will get his 3.3 years in the league.

I think we need to hold the players accountable as well. If we get Payne 1-on-1 with an interior lineman, we should expect him to win that battle at least 50% of the time. Or Kerrigan or Allen etc, these are supposed to be blue chip talent, if they get 1-on-1, they should occasionally win some of these 1-on-1s.

edit - Im not saying its not about the coaches but these players are just as much to blame imo.

I guess I should clarify, the coaches are partly to blame but if you want to get real technical about it Ryan Anderson deserves blame too. Either way between him and Holcomb we have 2 guys who aren't cutting it at mike.

I'm not surprised because this is what we've been reduced to,can anyone say-P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C..oh and our next opponent almost lost yesterday and they're gonna be pissed when they get here,did I mention that they happen to be the camps of the league while we're the chumps of the league..I'm calling it now-Pats 51-Skins 14!!!

That's real generous gifting us two td's.

I'm gonna say it will be 45-0 or 49-3.

How fun will it be when manusky has been the dc for 2 0-16 teams..

I think 1-15 or 2-14. The Dolphins are trying to tank, we should at least beat them.