Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.

I think A but like you said should be C. I think Gruden gets fired if we lose to the dolphins and are 0-6 or right after the game before the bye week...

gruden will be gone in under 24 hours

It brings up an interesting question.

Do you fire Gruden going into the Pats game, which is about as guaranteed an L as it's ever gonna get?

Or do you wait until after the game and fire him then knowing the Dolphins game is probably your best chance to win all season?

The more I think the better it seems to get the L to the Pats out of the way, then fire him and hopefully Allen/Manusky going into the Dolphins game so your new staff has a terrible opponent to prepare for.

It brings up an interesting question.



Do you fire Gruden going into the Pats game, which is about as guaranteed an L as it's ever gonna get?



Or do you wait until after the game and fire him then knowing the Dolphins game is probably your best chance to win all season?



The more I think the better it seems to get the L to the Pats out of the way, then fire him and hopefully Allen/Manusky going into the Dolphins game so your new staff has a terrible opponent to prepare for.Fire them all now, next weeks game is a wash, let the new person at least start installing his thoughts

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gruden will be gone in under 24 hours

Not going anywhere, book it

Dan Snyder,
It is time for new leadership. Someone qualified. Someone that is not afraid to say no to you. You are rich and a successful bussinessman. That does not make you qualified to run an NFL front office. Hire a professional. Someone like Charlie Casserly. Not because he is great or my favorite choice. But he is one of the few experienced candidates that would take this job and that has done it before. Anybody like Casserly would be an improvement over BA.
https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2019/07/19/bruce-allens-rough-drafting-track-record-redskins/

Not going anywhere, book it

JP Finlay said that too. Something has to happen though, right?

I wanted to start a new thread, but I know the basic concept has covered in all the threads. My question would be this.

WTF does it take to get DS to make a change anymore. I know the media used to harangue him for being impetuous. But let's be serious, Jay Gruden has had 5+ years to show he could be a consistent winning NFL coach, instead he has shown over and over he can't get the team ready for even basic games. Our D has been atrocious, our offense looks inept (Jay's own words). Or BA, he clearly has had issues with the players and agents at this point. He also clearly poisons communications with awful petty leaks and comments.

If after all of these things DS can't pull the trigger, what event will it take to trigger it.

I have no idea

I wanted to start a new thread, but I know the basic concept has covered in all the threads. My question would be this.

WTF does it take to get DS to make a change anymore. I know the media used to harangue him for being impetuous. But let's be serious, Jay Gruden has had 5+ years to show he could be a consistent winning NFL coach, instead he has shown over and over he can't get the team ready for even basic games. Our D has been atrocious, our offense looks inept (Jay's own words). Or BA, he clearly has had issues with the players and agents at this point. He also clearly poisons communications with awful petty leaks and comments.

If after all of these things DS can't pull the trigger, what event will it take to trigger it.

I have no idea

I have the next best idea.

Let's pull all our money together and get one of these Instagram ho-ors to seduce Dan Snyder long enough to get him on tape saying some stupid shit that will force him to sell the franchise.

I have the next best idea.



Let's pull all our money together and get one of these Instagram ho-ors to seduce Dan Snyder long enough to get him on tape saying some stupid shit that will force him to sell the franchise.At this point i am thinking Vegas odds would favor that idea

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I've said it before and will say it again, unless we fall upon dumb or blind luck then we'll never have any success (certainly not anything sustainable) with Snyder as the owner.

I've finally resigned myself to it.