Why moving on from Bruce Allen this year is pivotal to the future of the franchise.

Smith has been in scouting since 2011 right? So he's a talent evaluator, you can argue that he's been average at best from the draft pick standpoint since hes been in that role.

Let his ass go too

I'd chill on that, he's only in his 2nd year of being the director of college personnel. Prior to that he probably had little say in who was drafted.

I'd chill on that, he's only in his 2nd year of being the director of college personnel. Prior to that he probably had little say in who was drafted.Still mad, fire his ass too

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I like this thread... to bad the folks in charge don’t seem to get it..either they are stupid or they got some master plan..hmmmm .. I say burn it down get advice from a real football guy and start from scratch one hire at a time starting with whoever is going to run the football side of things.. you can’t hire coach first then bring in GM.. we have the players but that’s all we got ..there is enough talent that a bad year would be 8-8 our current system is costing us 4 wins a year minimum..

Kevin Sheehan brought up something interesting today, Peyton Manning is reportedly interested in getting into a ownership/GM role. Give him a minority ownership stake and the GM role. Fuck it, why the hell not??

If we fire everybody .. there is literally no one to help Snyder pick the GM.

There is of course his buddy who sits next to him on Sundays....... Joe Gibbs.

It seemed like Dan wanted to clean house last off season and I think we were all amazed that not a single person was fired. It must have been Bruce who persuaded him not to do it, so I don't think Dan will be very happy to be in this position again so early in the season and looking at a rebuild.

Sometimes clearing everybody out is a good thing, even the talented guys....... when the culture is so toxic sometimes it is the only way to reset things otherwise the players see the same coaches and the same FO people and assume that nothing is changing.

Do you all remember how happy we all were when Vinny was fired and every one thought it would be great to have a football guy in charge at last......

Dan isn't going to get a respected football guy to come within a million miles of Fedex, maybe Joe can. We are more than likely just going to have to cross our fingers that Kyle Smith hasn't been fatally poisoned by Bruce. I understand that Schaeffer (sp?) has a very good reputation though, correct me if I am wrong.

It does amaze me that despite the dysfunction that so many good young coaches and FO people seem to come out of Washington

Joe would be able to recognize good leadership skills no doubt but would he recognize the other skills necessary for successful GM candidates?

Before we get too carried away about the idea of the this org poisoning him, you do know who Kyle's Dad is right? AJ wasn't exactly known for his people skills. Hopefully Kyle isn't cut from that same mold.

I totally forgot about that angle, AJ Smith was one of the worst things to happen to the Chargers, talent evaluation skills aside.

Kevin Sheehan brought up something interesting today, Peyton Manning is reportedly interested in getting into a ownership/GM role. Give him a minority ownership stake and the GM role. Fuck it, why the hell not??

No thanks. It's something Snyder would do to get the fans excited. Total PR move IMO.

No thanks. It's something Snyder would do to get the fans excited. Total PR move IMO.I think we could use good PR and Manning knows football inside and out so I would not hate it entirely, but what is really important who Snyder hires as his new handler. If its a Vinny or BA clone then we will be right back in fan hell. If he allows a winning culture guy to come in and set up shop then maybe we have hope.

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Bruce is bad for business. No one w/ any credibility would ever come here if he's here.

Dan needs to walk into Redskin Park the day after the season and fire everyone. Bruce, Doug, Smith, Santos, Jay and his entire staff, all gone. It hasn't worked with this group. They've had plenty of time to get it right.

Lombardi is spot on, it's a culture thing with the Redskins and it needs to be rebuilt from the top down. Get a GM in here who's detail oriented and hire a coach who thinks like he does.

I'd make a call to Dabo cause he has turned Clemson around and he did it by changing the culture. I'd make a call to Greg Williams cause he makes players accountable. He can get more out of this underachieving defense. I'd call Eric Beinemy as well. The guy is ready to be a HC and can bring creativity to the offense.