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I have no doubt Eli will be in the HOF. The discussion should be whether or not he is 'first ballot'.

Has Eli ever had an elite season that ranked amongst the best qb's in the NFL? He's had plenty of above average years, and plenty of "led the league in picks" years but I can't recall one season where he just steamrolled through everybody. Other than that all he's got is 2 titles. With that W-L record I'm really not sure he's worthy.

The HOF debate for Eli will be interesting. Can't take away those 2 SB wins but a .500 overall record? Gross.

I agree. In Baltimore the local sports media has a consensus that his in the HOF just not a first ballot but I am not sold. He had several good years but played in the Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rodgers era.

His career INT numbers have to compare really poorly to others who are in the HOF. I haven't looked at the numbers, just going off gut.

Check out this list. Look for the bolded names, those are the active QBs. Look where Eli ranks among them, among the worst who played long enough to qualify.

We're in an age where if you're getting 2.5% or more of your passes intercepted, it's not good. Eli is at 3.0%.

Aikman and Marino were both at 3.0% too but they played in a downfield era. Their 3.0% was very good compared to the peers of their era. By comparison, Steve Young and Joe Montana were 2.6%. Andy Dalton is a career 2.6% guy in this era.

3.0% from Eli should keep him out, in my opinion.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_perc_career.htm

His career INT numbers have to compare really poorly to others who are in the HOF. I haven't looked at the numbers, just going off gut.

What about Favre?

What about Favre?

Favre was a unique circumstance, he also led the league in a whole bunch of career categories when he retired. Eli doesn't have that.

Without looking I think Dan Fouts had a .500 overall record and never even made it to a Super Bowl.

Fouts was 86-84-1

Tough to compare these guys across different eras. Fouts would put up stupid stats in today's game.

Has Eli ever had an elite season that ranked amongst the best qb's in the NFL? He's had plenty of above average years, and plenty of "led the league in picks" years but I can't recall one season where he just steamrolled through everybody. Other than that all he's got is 2 titles. With that W-L record I'm really not sure he's worthy.

Perhaps the question to ask is how many other QB's that are 2-time Super Bowl Champions and 2-time Super Bowl MVPs that ARE NOT in the HOF?

He's getting in despite your good argument.

Last name 'Manning', the so-called 'First Family or Football'. He would get in with 1 ring.

Perhaps the question to ask is how many other QB's that are 2-time Super Bowl Champions and 2-time Super Bowl MVPs that ARE NOT in the HOF?

He's getting in despite your good argument.

Last name 'Manning', the so-called 'First Family or Football'. He would get in with 1 ring.

HOF is about the body of work, not just getting a pair of rings. I think he's out.

Eli is a HOF QB but not first ballot