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SunnySide 09-26-2019, 12:26 PM Shanahans/Mcvay groomed cousins, jay just got him in the middle of his rise and halted/stopped it - kirk stopped improving under jay alone, may have even regressed
So Jay gets no credit for 2017 when Kirk put up 4,093 yds, 27 tds and 4 game winning drives?
That was with the highly explosive pass catching group of Crowder, vernon Davis, Ryan Grant, Josh Doctson and about 7 games of Jordan Reed before he IRd for the remainder of the season ... behind an injury decimated O line.
IMO Jay is better than he gets credit for around here. Perhaps if he truly got to pick his own QB, had final say on roster moves (like whether or not to trade for Alex Smith or Case Keenum), go to pick his DC and didnt coach a team that had historically unprecedented injuries for 2016-2018 .. yeah then maybe I could blame him as the reason for our record.
Dead horse now, apologies.
So Jay gets no credit for 2017 when Kirk put up 4,093 yds, 27 tds and 4 game winning drives?
That was with the highly explosive pass catching group of Crowder, vernon Davis, Ryan Grant, Josh Doctson and about 7 games of Jordan Reed before he IRd for the remainder of the season ... behind an injury decimated O line.
IMO Jay is better than he gets credit for around here. Perhaps if he truly got to pick his own QB, had final say on roster moves (like whether or not to trade for Alex Smith or Case Keenum), go to pick his DC and didnt coach a team that had historically unprecedented injuries for 2016-2018 .. yeah then maybe I could blame him as the reason for our record.
Dead horse now, apologies.
no credit, i've had it with him personally.
OnceWeWereKings 09-26-2019, 01:32 PM So Jay gets no credit for 2017 when Kirk put up 4,093 yds, 27 tds and 4 game winning drives?
That was with the highly explosive pass catching group of Crowder, vernon Davis, Ryan Grant, Josh Doctson and about 7 games of Jordan Reed before he IRd for the remainder of the season ... behind an injury decimated O line.
IMO Jay is better than he gets credit for around here. Perhaps if he truly got to pick his own QB, had final say on roster moves (like whether or not to trade for Alex Smith or Case Keenum), go to pick his DC and didnt coach a team that had historically unprecedented injuries for 2016-2018 .. yeah then maybe I could blame him as the reason for our record.
Dead horse now, apologies.
"Jay Gruden is a football coach in the National Football League (NFL) and has been the head coach for the Washington Redskins since 2014. During this time period, the Redskins compiled a 35-47-1 record."
That's exactly how good he is as a coach.
How many times do we need to see no halftime adjustments, or holding out players in favor of some total garbage favorite that he has? Hes terrible. This team has gone from garbage to pure and utter shit. All on his watch. The only reason that Kirk excelled was because of mcvay. Not jay. Get this clown the fuck out of here. Get rid of the whole lot of them. They are fucking clown shoes.
OnceWeWereKings 09-26-2019, 01:34 PM Tell me again how a coach that is 35-47 is better than he gets credit for. I have some land in texas to sell you when you're done with your explanation, btw.
skinsfaninok 09-26-2019, 01:41 PM You are what your record says you are
So Jay gets no credit for 2017 when Kirk put up 4,093 yds, 27 tds and 4 game winning drives?
You want credit for a 7-9 season where the offense was ranked #16 in points and Yards?
Jay is a ham sandwich, nothing more.
You want credit for a 7-9 season where the offense was ranked #16 in points and Yards?
Jay is a ham sandwich, nothing more.
and Manusky is the half full of air 25 cent bag of chips that you get with said ham sandwhich.
In the movie Christmas Vacation, Eddie chooses not to take the sled down the hill because he doesn't want to risk going down the hill "with nothing between the ground and my brains but a piece of government plastic." To which Clark responds, "Do you really think it matters, Eddie?"
So everyone wants to fire Gruden and Manusky...
irish 09-26-2019, 02:32 PM like i keep saying, jays a moron - colt fucking mccoy and case keenum are not taking this team to the playoffs dude, youre not that great of a coach to think you can work with qbs of this caliber and succeed
Playoffs?! Are you kidding me?! 8-8 would have been a miracle for this team. If you think this team had a shot at the playoffs you need to wake up.
Indian-brave 09-26-2019, 02:35 PM You are what your record says you are
Ultimately a stupid, meaningless slogan that says nothing about nothing. If your record actually said whst you are. Worst to first the following season, would never happen.
Just a dumb sports cliche, to go along with all the other dumb sports cliches
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