Dwayne Haskins preseason thread

I know, lets get this season out of the way, but with McCoy likely on the scrap heap and Smith almost certainly retiring or at least moving on, what about next year? I can't help thinking the best thing all round is to sit Haskins rather than risk spoiling his chances now, and start Keenum unless/until he stinks. Then if Haskins shows the mettle to own the starting job next season, barring a diamond late round backup QB pick up (a la Cousins), keep Keenum as #2 next year as he'll have experience in the system to fall back on.

Keenum can't expect a big contract next time out, from anyone, and may well agree to stay for a reasonable cost...

This is what I have been saying all along!

Give Dwayne Haskins a year to develop, then make him the starting QB next season.

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Do not want Haskins out there until he is ready and the O- line play has improved. The success of the team is going to be based on how the last draft pans out and if injured players bounce back. That is shaky ground if you ask me.

Look at the Baltimore blue print, they didn’t start Lamar until the end of the season.

To be fair with Lamar it was more towards the middle of the season, Flacco got hurt, and they had the number 1 defense in the league last year. Just from a throwing perspective, Haskins is farther along than Jackson was as a rookie.

If anyone is holding out hope we see the Keenum of 2017 you're probably going to have a bad time this year. He had a career year on a loaded offense with the Vikings and they still elected to move on from him. Denver moved on after one mediocre season. Very unlikely he has another 2017 in him.

Put me in the camp that doesn't expect a 2017 from him, I would honestly be surprised if Haskins isn't starting by game 5.

I don't think the question is whether you can expect a 2017 season from Keenum. That 2017 team had Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen, the WR weapons were just night/day better than ours (fingers crossed on McLaurin tho).

The question for me is whether Keenum can give you what Alex Smith gave you before getting hurt. Smith was on pace for 3200 yards, 16 TDs, 8 INTs.

And he was 6-3 going into the game where he got hurt. With a healthy line and running game, with this defense, it's not far fetched for me to think Keenum can be what Alex was. The exception though is INTs. Alex was among the best at avoiding turnovers. But in 2017 Keenum only threw 7. Last year in Denver, he threw 15.

What you get from Keenum in the ball security department will determine everything. We're going to be a team with a small margin for error. We will limit teams on defense, so even an underachieving offense centered around a ground & pound style will still be in the game. The question is can Keenum convert just enough chances into points, or will he turn it over to the other team, and give them a short field for that field goal that makes the difference?

All I know is if you put Haskins in, you end up with 20 INTs and you're dead in the water from the jump. He's not there yet, we see it in the preseason.

I don't think the question is whether you can expect a 2017 season from Keenum. That 2017 team had Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen, the WR weapons were just night/day better than ours (fingers crossed on McLaurin tho).

The question for me is whether Keenum can give you what Alex Smith gave you before getting hurt. Smith was on pace for 3200 yards, 16 TDs, 8 INTs.

And he was 6-3 going into the game where he got hurt. With a healthy line and running game, with this defense, it's not far fetched for me to think Keenum can be what Alex was. The exception though is INTs. Alex was among the best at avoiding turnovers. But in 2017 Keenum only threw 7. Last year in Denver, he threw 15.

What you get from Keenum in the ball security department will determine everything. We're going to be a team with a small margin for error. We will limit teams on defense, so even an underachieving offense centered around a ground & pound style will still be in the game. The question is can Keenum convert just enough chances into points, or will he turn it over to the other team, and give them a short field for that field goal that makes the difference?

All I know is if you put Haskins in, you end up with 20 INTs and you're dead in the water from the jump. He's not there yet, we see it in the preseason.

Agree, Case had a miracle season in 2017, 81.4 Grade was among the best QBs. Our WRs are not close and Terry will have growing pains, you hardly ever see a rookie WR come in and dominate, Case will be Alex Smith if he doesn't turn it over.

I don't think the question is whether you can expect a 2017 season from Keenum. That 2017 team had Stefon Diggs and Adam Thielen, the WR weapons were just night/day better than ours (fingers crossed on McLaurin tho).

The question for me is whether Keenum can give you what Alex Smith gave you before getting hurt. Smith was on pace for 3200 yards, 16 TDs, 8 INTs.

And he was 6-3 going into the game where he got hurt. With a healthy line and running game, with this defense, it's not far fetched for me to think Keenum can be what Alex was. The exception though is INTs. Alex was among the best at avoiding turnovers. But in 2017 Keenum only threw 7. Last year in Denver, he threw 15.

What you get from Keenum in the ball security department will determine everything. We're going to be a team with a small margin for error. We will limit teams on defense, so even an underachieving offense centered around a ground & pound style will still be in the game. The question is can Keenum convert just enough chances into points, or will he turn it over to the other team, and give them a short field for that field goal that makes the difference?

All I know is if you put Haskins in, you end up with 20 INTs and you're dead in the water from the jump. He's not there yet, we see it in the preseason.

Keenum is not Alex Smith.

As for Haskins I wouldn't assume putting him in means a ton of INT's. It's all how they manage him and what they ask from him in the passing game. If the run game and D are solid he could manage the offense just fine.

Keenum fumbled 11 times last year and lost 5. That's something to be concerned about.

I doubt Case has a long leash, if the team starts off bad it's time to go to Haskins