Democratic Primary Push for White House

Chico .. thank you for proving my point.



Trump voters cant handle basic facts.



As a result, they will turn towards juvenile disruptive behavior and strawman detours from actual adult conversation, closely mirroring Donald Trump's own personality (and insecurities).



Dems dont let Trump drag the 2020 election into a 'who can be the biggest asshole' contest, bc Trump will win every time.



Stick to facts. And easy to understand facts at that.Honestly, if the Democrats try to run on the economy they will lose big. Not that the economy is or isnt booming, but polls across the board show Trump has his strongest favorability polls on the economy. And he will tout the numbers loud like you will see tonight.

Healthcare remains the Democrats strongest talking point, that and the Supreme Court. The chances of RBG making it through 4 more years of Trump is slim.

But discounting the Iowa debacle is a mistake, if Bernie voters geel the DNC is rigging the primary again you vould see an implosion of the liberal base.

A Bernie/AOC Independent ticket would demolish any Democratic candidate like Biden or Bloomberg.

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To emphasize my point on the evonomy, Gallup's latest poll has a +28 margin for Trump. If Trump wss not such a despicable character his re-election would be a shoe in. But 50 percent of America HATES him. A solid 35% truly fears him and his policies. And his foreign policy runs along lines with his dislike quotient

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Why are you bitchin about trump In this thread?

This is where we talk about Democratic debacle from last night? Any thoughts?

Not sure how it wasn’t vetted more closely leading up to the caucus talk about a blown opportunity and still no word? but the caucus form of voting has now had problems in the last 3 presidential primaries personally I think that forum needs to go

Does he really want to make it about the economy?

Gross Domestic Product for 2019 was 2.3%. That means economic growth slowed from the prior year. That’s nothing to brag about. The average growth rate since 1947 has been 3.2%. The best GDP growth of the last 15 years was in 2014...an Obama year. He promised 4%-6% GDP growth would pay for his tax cuts...it hasn't happened.

From 2009 to January 2017, Obama’s last month in office, jobs averaged 201,600 per month. Trump, from February 2017 to the end of 2019, averaged just 191,100. That’s 5% less per month.

It's true that wages have increased. But only in states and cities that increased in the minimum wage. Trump and the GOP at large opposed those increases.

^ democratic poster on fox news

Your gibberish doesn't mean a thing.
It's about how consumers view thing.
Consumer Sentiment is at an ALL TIME HIGH!

^ a republican posters reply

CRed - I think you’re right to a degree. What I would like to see is the dems hammering the bullet points to change the public perception.

And your comments about an independent sanders ticket .. or even disenfranchised sanders fans if he doesn’t get it ... well that would be the end of the dems for 2020 and the worst possible scenario for dems. Scaring the crap out of me

Not sure how it wasn’t vetted more closely leading up to the caucus talk about a blown opportunity and still no word? but the caucus form of voting has now had problems in the last 3 presidential primaries personally I think that forum needs to go

Yeah I agree. I don’t fully understand the caucus process but it seems antiquated. In 2012, it took republicans weeks to announce their caucus results

Now they release “half” the results way to add to the confusion

growth
greater productivity is one of the two main drivers of growth; the other is an increase in the number of u.s. Workers. Both have slowed in the past decade.

Economic growth was 2.3 percent in 2019, matching the average pace since the great recession ended a decade ago in the first year of barack obama’s eight-year presidency.

During the 2016 campaign, trump boasted that his tax cut plan would boost annual growth to 4 percent a year — a brisk pace not seen since the late 1990s.

Instead, trump is one of two presidents, along with obama, since world war ii not to have presided over a year of at least 3 percent growth.

Few economists think the economy will hit that target this year.

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taxes
most analysts do think trump’s tax plan helped accelerate growth, just not the way he had promised.

“the trump tax cuts were a sugar high that juiced the economy temporarily,” said ryan sweet, an economist at moody’s analytics.

It put more money in americans’ pockets, boosting consumer spending.

The economy grew 2.9 percent in 2018, a healthy pace though the same as in 2015, the year before trump’s election.

The administration had vowed, though, that the tax cuts would do more than just encourage americans to shop more.
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trade
most economists partly blame the stall on trump’s trade wars, particularly with china. The trade conflicts have left american companies much less certain about the economic outlook and reluctant to expand and invest. Business investment shrank in the final three quarters of last year.

Nor have trump’s business tax cuts and deregulation made the economy more dynamic. The growth of new companies has remained anemic since the 2008 downturn.

Larger businesses continue to dominate many industries, from technology to retail to finance.

All this is occurring despite significant stimulus. Trump has assailed fed chairman jerome powell for not cutting rates more, though the fed’s benchmark rate is now in a range of just 1.5 percent to 1.75 percent, a very low level historically and one that is considered stimulative.

Increased federal spending also has helped support the economy.

The congressional budget office last week projected that the government’s deficit will top $1 trillion annually for the next decade.
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jobs
trump recently has highlighted what he calls a “blue collar boom,” pointing to solid wage gains for lower-paid workers and healthy hiring in construction and manufacturing. But manufacturing jobs barely grew last year as factories hunkered down in the midst of the trade wars. Since trump’s inauguration, manufacturing jobs have grown more slowly than employment overall has.

“everyone says the economy is going great guns, but that is everything except agriculture and manufacturing,” goss said.

What’s more, most campaign battleground states in the midwest, such as michigan, pennsylvania, ohio and wisconsin, have lost factory jobs in the past year.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-of-the-union-the-economy-under-president-trump-by-the-numbers


dems need to hammer and keep hammering the economy and the deficit.
Trump cant lie his way around numbers, hell try but its easily provable.

Dont talk about borders, immigration, 2a, emissions .. Talk and never stop talking about the economy and deficit.

Trumpers can scream but "lowest unemployment ever" ... But unemployment has been going down at a steady clip since obama so really trump was put on 3rd base for that. The farmer and manufacturing jobs havent been booming like trump promised.

Edit - this article is on the front page of fox news but i bet $100 its off the first page by noon est.

lol................

A Bernie/AOC Independent ticket would demolish any Democratic candidate like Biden or Bloomberg.


I believe that is a moot point. You have to be 35 to be president of the USA, she is only 30, so that has to disqualify her as a VP candidate, I would think. Correct me if I am wrong.

Now they release “half” the results way to add to the confusion

Can u believe Pete is winning? I was told by Bernie bros...this could be a win by 10%.

Not a good start for Biden.

I’m a Klobuchar fan...I like Gabbard too, mostly because she a spitfire smoke show and she sued Hillary.

Biden is the only democrat that I will vote for against Trump. If the nomination goes to anyone but him, Will Seemore will get my vote this year for president of the USA as he did last election. Politics in this country is in a sad state. I am sick of all the negativity. A good example is the Democrat's so called firebrand of AOC, most of the time all she is doing is complaining and pointing fingers while providing zero proposed solutions for the problems. She also doesn't seem very bright or informed, she is just noisy.