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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 06-05-2005, 05:23 PM http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8536477
Redwagonskins,
You're right that he can't flash a weapon and point it at someone unless there's a viable claim of self-defense. However, his returning to the scene doesn't necessarily destroy his self-defense claim (if there is one). If he felt threatened and there are facts to back up that claim, he might have a self-defense defense to the charge. Moreover, returning to the scene and hitting someone isn't aggravated assault - it's simple battery (hence the charge of simple battery).
You're also right that he's a total jackass (based on what we now know). But, we have few facts on which to base a judgment about how strong the State's evidence is, what Taylor did, what Taylor was responding to, in what circumstances he brandished a weapon, and in what circumstances he hit someone. Until I get more information about the whole incident, I still reserve final judgment about the situation and Taylor. My preliminary feeling though is that you are right and he's a total jackass.
offiss 06-05-2005, 05:25 PM The speculation is we are only hearing 1 side of the story, how do we know this guy didn't raise his fist at Taylor first, the fact that he came back doesn't look good but a good lawyer can turn anything, perhaps the individual said come back and I will give your atv's who know's, it's garbage that he's even involved in this, but there are 2 sides, and as usual Taylor hasen't said boo about his side.
This kid need's to get out of Florida pronto.
redwagonskins 06-05-2005, 05:30 PM I think what gets me about the guy is that he mopes through camp last year and the first few games because he isn't starting. He dosen't return ANY calls from Gibbs. He skips workouts. He's already had trouble off the field with the DUI (I know, I know, he was let off). He wants a new contract. He changes his number 4 times (36, 21, 36, 21...). He gets arrested for assault and battery. And the organization says they did this huge background check on him. So either this pattern of behavior has emerged in the last year or the background check was done by the weapons of mass destruction intelligence team.
REDSKINS TANK 06-05-2005, 05:34 PM TAYLOR'S CAREER COULD BE OVER.
He is in some deep shit friends. Looks like he might do 10-15. It's a damn shame because this kid really had potential to be one of the great ones. Hope we can get some of that money back.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
rickmmrr 06-05-2005, 05:36 PM Well, if this episode causes his agent to advise ST to shut his ass up and report to practice ASAP, then maybe some good can come out of it.
redwagonskins 06-05-2005, 05:37 PM Maybe the Skins can work some kind of work release program with the state of FL.
GoSkins! 06-05-2005, 05:52 PM TAYLOR'S CAREER COULD BE OVER.
He is in some deep shit friends. Looks like he might do 10-15. It's a damn shame because this kid really had potential to be one of the great ones. Hope we can get some of that money back.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
In any case, what ST did was not right. BUT, if it ends up that the guys he either pulled the gun on, or shot at were not the right guys, what prosecuter would let him off or cut a good deal? If he picked the wrong guys, he's toast.
offiss 06-05-2005, 05:53 PM It's a good thing his agent had his best interest's at heart, advising this kid to stay in florida so he can run around with his hommies was a grand idea.
Taylor is the classic case of an individual who can't live with money, now that he has it he think's he's invincible.
Paintrain 06-05-2005, 05:54 PM Facts: "Taylor was accompanied by defense attorney Fred Moldovan when he surrendered on charges of aggravated assault with a firearm and simple battery, police said.
According to a police statement, Taylor pointed a gun at an unidentified person Wednesday during a dispute over two all-terrain vehicles he claimed were stolen. Taylor left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and punched one person"
ESPN
That's the police statement. He pointed a gun (fact), beat some guy up (fact) and was charged with aggravated assault and simple battery (fact). There is not much speculation in saying the guy is facing some serious charges.
They are not "(fact)" until they are proven in court. The police statement said Ray Lewis stabbed 2 people. The police statement said that O.J. murdered his wife and a friend. The police statement said that Robert Black murdered his wife. For that matter, the police statement said that Sean Taylor was driving drunk, appreared intoxicated and smelled of alcohol, how did that turn out? Until the jury speaks, nothing is "fact".
GoSkins! 06-05-2005, 05:57 PM They are not "(fact)" until they are proven in court. The police statement said Ray Lewis stabbed 2 people. The police statement said that O.J. murdered his wife and a friend. The police statement said that Robert Black murdered his wife. Until the jury speaks, nothing is "fact".
The jury doesn't decide FACT. They decide if a person could be guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Ray, O.J. and Blake know those facts, not the jury; AND not guilty does not mean they didn't do it.
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