Sean Taylor Charged with Aggravated Assault

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firstdown
06-06-2005, 11:56 AM
We need Sean Taylor, but we can do without him if need be. I think our secondary will do just fine without him. I'm just curious to see what comes out of this situation.I agree that Sean is needed because he has so much talent and can make the big plys we need from him. Last year though we did prove that Williams can find the right player to fill in for an injured or Jailed player. LOL They may not be of the same caliber but will get the job done. The only positve to this is that it came up before training camp has started and that will give us the extra time needed to make the adjustments.

That Guy
06-06-2005, 12:10 PM
he wont plead guilty to agravated assault, cause then all his options go out the window... the only thing he'd plead guilty to would be a lesser charge in the context of a plea bargain.

they can't convict for AA with reasonal doubt, so he said/she said might be enough to keep him clear (might because of his track record)... if there are recorded witnesses (ie, making a 911 call) then he could be done (in studies witnesses are notoriously bad at remembering details even a couple days after an event, so basing an entire legal system off the validity of eye witness testimony is a generally bad idea... but recording 911 calls and taking same day statements (and making sure their story matches up in court) do alleviate some of the concerns (and liars tend to be very bad at keeping made-up details straight)).

celts32
06-06-2005, 12:16 PM
My only concern in this is the #1 draft pick the Redskins will be losing on this guy becasue frankly I am not sure I want this guy on my team anymore. How can we possibly root for this thug?

PSUSkinsFan21
06-06-2005, 12:26 PM
he wont plead guilty to agravated assault, cause then all his options go out the window... the only thing he'd plead guilty to would be a lesser charge in the context of a plea bargain.

they can't convict for AA with reasonal doubt, so he said/she said might be enough to keep him clear (might because of his track record)... if there are recorded witnesses (ie, making a 911 call) then he could be done (in studies witnesses are notoriously bad at remembering details even a couple days after an event, so basing an entire legal system off the validity of eye witness testimony is a generally bad idea... but recording 911 calls and taking same day statements (and making sure their story matches up in court) do alleviate some of the concerns (and liars tend to be very bad at keeping made-up details straight)).

In practice, thousands of defendants are convicted on a daily basis entirely because of eye-witness testimony. Eye-witness testimony is really only questioned when the defense is trying to show mistaken identity. That's not likely in the case of a well-known athelete. As for recorded 911 calls and "same day statements", those statements are inadmissible hearsay (i.e. out-of-court statements offered for the truth of the matter asserted), unless they fall under one of the hearsay exceptions. In this case, there are likely not any exceptions. Furthermore, a witness's testimony is to be based entirely on their recollection of the events as of the time they take the stand.

As for reasonable doubt, I can't stress this enough that his past record, or lack of record, cannot be considered by the jury in determining guilt. The only time his clean record helps him is in the sentencing process. Prior acts (or lack thereof) are generally not admissible in determining guilt.

MTK
06-06-2005, 12:27 PM
My only concern in this is the #1 draft pick the Redskins will be losing on this guy becasue frankly I am not sure I want this guy on my team anymore. How can we possibly root for this thug?

The big thing is how his teammates feel about him, and going by Cooley's recent comments in the Post he has the support of his team.

Fans are quick to forgive, especially once he starts smacking people around on the field, it won't be too long before fans are cheering for him again.

RedskinRat
06-06-2005, 12:37 PM
Fans are quick to forgive, especially once he starts smacking people around on the field, it won't be too long before fans are cheering for him again.

September 19th, Taylor crushes Drew Bledsoe on a saftey blitz, the love fest continues.

Schneed10
06-06-2005, 12:43 PM
September 19th, Taylor crushes Drew Bledsoe on a saftey blitz, the love fest continues.

I'd like it better if Matt Bowen or Ryan Clark crushed him.

PSUSkinsFan21
06-06-2005, 01:01 PM
I'd like it better if Matt Bowen or Ryan Clark crushed him.

:biggthump I'll second that.

dirtbag2112
06-06-2005, 01:11 PM
I think "uh oh Jimoh" is about to make an appearance.

Gmanc711
06-06-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm ready to burry my Sean Taylor jersey, right next to my Coles jersey for this offseason. This guy is done, if you ask me. He is a huge distraction right now, and he is just making some of the stupidest decisions, and I think this one really is going to get him in some trouble. I think we need to think about life after Sean Taylor right now.

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