Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Man, if we coulda moved TW for a first and walk away with something less...HUGE fuck up

Please stop bringing up the Kirk Cousins bullshit, Minnesota paid him 80 mil and he barely got a winning record, with the same 2017 team that went to the playoffs, last year.



I didn’t say Bruce Allen screwed up the Kirk Cousins situation because we should have kept him. I didn’t think Cousins was the franchise QB for the future, AND SO DID Bruce Allen! Once the team decided that he wasn’t that QB of the future and didn’t want to give him the money he wanted IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON. Giving him franchise money for two more years made the team look indecisive and without a long-term plan. Having a press conference where Bruce Allen calls his QB by HIS WRONG NAME looks amateurish and unprepared.

So the team blew a lot of money on a QB who didn’t want to be here AND we didn’t want!! It didn’t help our record over those two years and the team didn’t use the time to develop a new QB for the future. I’m not even going to discuss the Alex Smith situation.

Here’s where we stand with TW. He has told numerous friends, who told the press: he doesn’t want to play with this team EVER AGAIN. Did something happen this summer between BA and TW? I don’t know but he has told everyone the same thing: I’m NEVER wearing the Redskin uniform again.

Ppl here say we have great leverage with TW? How? The longer we keep him the less we will get. Teams like the Pats have moved forward to fill their LT hole. If he sits out the season, he will have FAR LESS value then right now. He’s made $100 million so far in his career, does losing $21 mill from the Redskins this season suddenly make him desperate? NO! It makes him more pissed than he already is.

It’s time for BA to wake up, grow up and get the best trade that he can NOW. BA is losing this game of chicken and the team needs that first round draft pick (in a trade for TW) next year for the OL. For once BA needs to make the right decision and trade TW now.




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Here’s where we stand with TW. He has told numerous friends, who told the press: he doesn’t want to play with this team EVER AGAIN. Did something happen this summer between BA and TW? I don’t know but he has told everyone the same thing: I’m NEVER wearing the Redskin uniform again.

Ppl here say we have great leverage with TW? How? The longer we keep him the less we will get. Teams like the Pats have moved forward to fill their LT hole. If he sits out the season, he will have FAR LESS value then right now. He’s made $100 million so far in his career, does losing $21 mill from the Redskins this season suddenly make him desperate? NO! It makes him more pissed than he already is.

It’s time for BA to wake up, grow up and get the best trade that he can NOW. BA is losing this game of chicken and the team needs that first round draft pick (in a trade for TW) next year for the OL. For once BA needs to make the right decision and trade TW now.

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No one is probably serious about trading for Trent right now (quoting Andrew Brandt, deadlines spur action). It'd be foolish for the team to trade him right now, unless they get a motherload for him.

Also, this is not a situation where the teams can sit and wait for the Redskins to release Trent. As long as Trent is not showing up, he's giving up his salary to the team. If Trent doesn't play for two years straight, he is giving up $21 million to the team.

I didn’t say Bruce Allen screwed up the Kirk Cousins situation because we should have kept him. I didn’t think Cousins was the franchise QB for the future, AND SO DID Bruce Allen! Once the team decided that he wasn’t that QB of the future and didn’t want to give him the money he wanted IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON. Giving him franchise money for two more years made the team look indecisive and without a long-term plan. Having a press conference where Bruce Allen calls his QB by HIS WRONG NAME looks amateurish and unprepared.

So the team blew a lot of money on a QB who didn’t want to be here AND we didn’t want!! It didn’t help our record over those two years and the team didn’t use the time to develop a new QB for the future. I’m not even going to discuss the Alex Smith situation.

Here’s where we stand with TW. He has told numerous friends, who told the press: he doesn’t want to play with this team EVER AGAIN. Did something happen this summer between BA and TW? I don’t know but he has told everyone the same thing: I’m NEVER wearing the Redskin uniform again.

Ppl here say we have great leverage with TW? How? The longer we keep him the less we will get. Teams like the Pats have moved forward to fill their LT hole. If he sits out the season, he will have FAR LESS value then right now. He’s made $100 million so far in his career, does losing $21 mill from the Redskins this season suddenly make him desperate? NO! It makes him more pissed than he already is.

It’s time for BA to wake up, grow up and get the best trade that he can NOW. BA is losing this game of chicken and the team needs that first round draft pick (in a trade for TW) next year for the OL. For once BA needs to make the right decision and trade TW now.



I'm not sure now much of the $100 million he has earned to date he netted after paying representation and taxes, nor how much of it he still has, but it is for sure that his days of earning that kind of money are numbered. Pro athletes generally need to earn as much as they can while they still can. It seems odd to me that anyone would think that $21 million is unimportant to him. Frankly, I agree with the folks who think that represents a tremendous amount of leverage for the Redskins. This is most likely not a season that the Redskins are making a push for a deep playoff run, so I'm not seeing the argument that Trent has a lot of leverage here. Maybe you'll prove to be right, but I'm not seeing it right now.

I'm not sure now much of the $100 million he has earned to date he netted after paying representation and taxes, nor how much of it he still has, but it is for sure that his days of earning that kind of money are numbered. Pro athletes generally need to earn as much as they can while they still can. It seems odd to me that anyone would think that $21 million is unimportant to him. Frankly, I agree with the folks who think that represents a tremendous amount of leverage for the Redskins. This is most likely not a season that the Redskins are making a push for a deep playoff run, so I'm not seeing the argument that Trent has a lot of leverage here. Maybe you'll prove to be right, but I'm not seeing it right now.

Ironically, if Trent was showing up and being a malcontent or actually speaking to the media (instead of using JLC as his mouthpiece) about the situation, he'd probably have more leverage. Or if he was playing on the franchise tag.

But as I said before, as long as he is not showing up and keeping quiet, he is not putting any pressure on the team to do anything.

The left side of our OL is going to be a pass rush freeway starting in Game 1. Then we'll see whether Trent or the Skins possess the most leverage.

Personally, I think Smithers has already f'ed up royally by not getting the OL fixed. We're risking getting one or more QB's hurt which will certainly derail our season.

If was Bruce Allen's boss, this is what I would tell him: "Fix it - now!".

p.s. Fix it to me means fix it in whatever way Allen deems appropriate. Just fix it and do it now.

D’Angelo Hall says he has spoken with Trent and he won’t show up. Take it for what it’s worth.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/trent-williams-doubles-down-his-holdout-theres-zero-chance-ill-be-building-next-week

The left side of our OL is going to be a pass rush freeway starting in Game 1. Then we'll see whether Trent or the Skins possess the most leverage.

Personally, I think Smithers has already f'ed up royally by not getting the OL fixed. We're risking getting one or more QB's hurt which will certainly derail our season.

If was Bruce Allen's boss, this is what I would tell him: "Fix it - now!".

p.s. Fix it to me means fix it in whatever way Allen deems appropriate. Just fix it and do it now.

What if Allen deems Penn/Flowers appropriate.

I still think that will be a strong run blocking duo, and most of our passes will be based off of play action.

If the rumor was true with the Pats offering a #1 then shame on Bruce. His pride and ego are getting in the way. You can't bring Trent back at this point.

The left side of our OL is going to be a pass rush freeway starting in Game 1. Then we'll see whether Trent or the Skins possess the most leverage.

Personally, I think Smithers has already f'ed up royally by not getting the OL fixed. We're risking getting one or more QB's hurt which will certainly derail our season.

If was Bruce Allen's boss, this is what I would tell him: "Fix it - now!".

p.s. Fix it to me means fix it in whatever way Allen deems appropriate. Just fix it and do it now.

i would say "theres the door, jackass."