Trent Williams holding out for new deal

The point is he took a below market deal to help the team sign Dak and Zeke and said so. We don’t have guys doing that. Not even close.


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Look at our owner. He doesn't take care of the players the way some owners do. Yes, he pays big but he isn't exactly known for his locker room affection. Players aren't going to miss out on millions of dollars for somebody they don't respect.

In fact I think a lot of the players only play hard for Gruden, and don't really care for the higher ups.

I actually think Christian has looked better than Penn overall. Neither have been good, but if I had to pick one today it would be Christian. Penn has looked slow and tired and out of shape.



Our O line is an absolute huge problem. Even if it weren’t we are counting on Case Keenum to do what exactly? Our mlb is not strong and a very important piece of the defensive side of things. Our rb’s and wr’s are completely unproven. Guice might be a stud but who knows. AP will run out of gas like last year - probably sooner with a weaker o line. Our special teams has been absolutely God awful because we hired a God awful ST coach to come in for some reason. Usually at this point im drowning in kool aid, but this year I am already wondering who we can take with a top 3 pick. Though with Bruce at the helm we will probably trade number 3 for 5 future 7’s. It doesn’t look good at all.

Sheehan reports the Pats offered their 2020 1st, and the Skins said it's not enough (https://omny.fm/shows/kevin-sheehan-show/08-22-19-the-kevin-sheehan-show-hour-1) !!!!

To me that's GREAT news !
It means there'd be a price that would be enough, it means they listen to legit offers, it means they want more than a late 1st round pick, it means a 1st+ is likely to be offered! Love it!!!

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/8/21/20809317/comparing-geron-christian-and-donald-penn-a-short-pre-season-film-study

Sheehan reports the Pats offered their 2020 1st, and the Skins said it's not enough (https://omny.fm/shows/kevin-sheehan-show/08-22-19-the-kevin-sheehan-show-hour-1) !!!!

To me that's GREAT news !
It means there'd be a price that would be enough, it means they listen to legit offers, it means they want more than a late 1st round pick, it means a 1st+ is likely to be offered! Love it!!!

I doubt anyone will offer more if that is in fact true.

No need to rush things with Trent, someone could get desperate because of an injury and up the offer.

Sheehan reports the Pats offered their 2020 1st, and the Skins said it's not enough (https://omny.fm/shows/kevin-sheehan-show/08-22-19-the-kevin-sheehan-show-hour-1) !!!!

To me that's GREAT news !
It means there'd be a price that would be enough, it means they listen to legit offers, it means they want more than a late 1st round pick, it means a 1st+ is likely to be offered! Love it!!!

Wow...This is great news. Basically a guaranteed first round pick is the starting point. Beautiful. When u negotiate, the guy putting up the first number becomes the one at the disadvantage

I doubt anyone will offer more if that is in fact true.

I beg to disagree, I think Sheehan doesn't rush to break news, he rarely breaks news, and/so when he does he usually is accurate.

So I do think his report is legit, and I think putting out there the news that the Pats were willing to give a 1st could make other teams think about doing the same.

I know NFL's FOs aren't regular fans, but tell me knowing Belichik and Cie were OK with giving a 1st isn't going to legitimate the idea that TW is worth a 1st in the eyes of the league ? It sure would in the eyes of many fans, and in some instances perception is reality. I'd say setting market value is one of these instances.

No need to rush things with Trent, someone could get desperate because of an injury and up the offer.

Agreed 100%, but this is good news as far as leverage for the Skins.

I beg to disagree, I think Sheehan doesn't rush to break news, he rarely breaks news, and/so when he does he usually is accurate.

So I do think his report is legit, and I think putting out there the news that the Pats were willing to give a 1st could make other teams think about doing the same.

I know NFL's FOs aren't regular fans, but tell me knowing Belichik and Cie were OK with giving a 1st isn't going to legitimate the idea that TW is worth a 1st in the eyes of the league ? It sure would in the eyes of many fans, and in some instances perception is reality. I'd say setting market value is one of these instances.

If TW was in his mid 20's then I'd agree w/ you. But he's 30 +, plays 12 games a year and probably wants more money. You're not going to get multiple picks for him. The Pats aren't stupid. They're not dropping their pants like Bruce does on trades.