Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Agreed. Gruden is concerned about injuries after last few years. Can't play scared. These guys need the reps. They need to play at least 1-2 series minimum. All of them.I don't disagree with you, but to be fair, he did say part of it is they're mostly all coming back from injury to some degree or another, and a few more days would make a difference. I think that's true for several of them, like Colt, Sweat, Guice, Thompson, etc.

And as far as Colt, in this QB competition, he needs to see the other guys more than him, he knows Colt. Reed is a similar situation, yes it would help for the QB to develop timing with his receivers, but I think that's over rated, that's been the excuse for Doctson for three years. Reed on the other hand, he can be thrown to by anyone. I mean, you or I could stand back there and throw it to him.

That said, no McLauren... that is a question. He clearly didn't bench him for negative reasons. He played one snap, and he's been raved about in camp. So, is it to protect him from injury in the preseason? Most likely. He could possibly though be not showing his hand with him yet, or he's a receiver that anyone can throw to like Reed. I hope is the latter.

I digress, yeah, I agree they need to play more. Kevin Sheehan and Cooley said it too. Tom Brady threw like 40 or 50 some odd passes in the preseason to Alex Smith's 14 last year. That said, Haskins had 18 last night alone, and it makes perfect sense to get him as many reps in the preseason as possible.

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I don't disagree with you, but to be fair, he did say part of it is they're mostly all coming back from injury to some degree or another, and a few more days would make a difference. I think that's true for several of them, like Colt, Sweat, Guice, Thompson, etc.

And as far as Colt, in this QB competition, he needs to see the other guys more than him, he knows Colt. Reed is a similar situation, yes it would help for the QB to develop timing with his receivers, but I think that's over rated, that's been the excuse for Doctson for three years. Reed on the other hand, he can be thrown to by anyone. I mean, you or I could stand back there and throw it to him.

That said, no McLauren... that is a question. He clearly didn't bench him for negative reasons. He played one snap, and he's been raved about in camp. So, is it to protect him from injury in the preseason? Most likely. He could possibly though be not showing his hand with him yet, or he's a receiver that anyone can throw to like Reed. I hope is the latter.

I digress, yeah, I agree they need to play more. Kevin Sheehan and Cooley said it too. Tom Brady threw like 40 or 50 some odd passes in the preseason to Alex Smith's 14 last year. That said, Haskins had 18 last night alone, and it makes perfect sense to get him as many reps in the preseason as possible.

Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkAny players with injury issues currently, totally see why they should not play. Those, however, who are not need to play at least some. We have to see what we have in these guys in live action. I'm crossing my fingers that we'll see more players/starters the next couple games.

A RB, Duke Johnson from the Browns got traded for a conditional 3rd. I'd think that most likely the best LT would command more. I could see that the holdout gives leverage to the other team, but not if they lose their LT for the season. So, you wait...



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But....number one the Browns didn’t need Duke like we need Trent so he was “expendable “ and number two he isn’t older.
That being said yes if a contender at some point down the road needs a LT to put them over the hump they might over pay.

But....number one the Browns didn’t need Duke like we need Trent so he was “expendable “ and number two he isn’t older.
That being said yes if a contender at some point down the road needs a LT to put them over the hump they might over pay.A 3rd for a running back is still pretty generous. The position is just easier to replenish than a left tackle. Yes, I get the age difference. But, TW is still considered top notch. A 3rd for all things considered is fair for TW.

Just watched the game. I'm taking a road trip to Silverbacks home tomorrow and begging him to come back.

Just watched the game. I'm taking a road trip to Silverbacks home tomorrow and begging him to come back.Lol let us know how that goes for you. Think he's serious about not playing for us anymore.

Just watched the game. I'm taking a road trip to Silverbacks home tomorrow and begging him to come back.

.............note, I wouldn't call him "silverback" to his face but hey that's just me.:twocents:

.............note, I wouldn't call him "silverback" to his face but hey that's just me.:twocents:

Sigh...

Sigh...He just didn't realize TW gave himself the nickname, and a tattoo

https://www.tmz.com/2012/07/23/trent-williams-silverback-gorilla-tattoo/

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He just didn't realize TW gave himself the nickname, and a tattoo

https://www.tmz.com/2012/07/23/trent-williams-silverback-gorilla-tattoo/

Sent from my SM-G973U using TapatalkThat tatoo is insane and pricey! Bet Trent spent also a big portion of his day at the parlor for that one.