Schneed10
08-01-2019, 10:48 AM
Reading between the lines a bit...
Penn said he talked with Trent and wanted to go someplace where he had a chance to start. Penn also said that he and Trent talked a bit about the swing role, and Penn said he'd be comfortable doing that if the team needed.
It tells me, from that conversation, that Trent's preference is definitely to get out of Washington but at the same time he knows he can't control it, and that he might be forced to come back week 1 if he's not traded, moving Penn to swing tackle.
I think it's a little window into the way Trent's thinking. The team has more leverage than it first seemed, now that Penn is in house. I think Trent acknowledges that he will play rather than give up $11M in game checks, even though he'd prefer the staff be canned or a trade.
If Bruce stares him down, he'll come back to play for us. But I don't think he'd consider resigning here and you wonder how much of an issue he becomes over the course of the next two years. There is some sense in taking a trade if the offer is good enough.
skinsfaninok
08-01-2019, 10:54 AM
Reading between the lines a bit...
Penn said he talked with Trent and wanted to go someplace where he had a chance to start. Penn also said that he and Trent talked a bit about the swing role, and Penn said he'd be comfortable doing that if the team needed.
It tells me, from that conversation, that Trent's preference is definitely to get out of Washington but at the same time he knows he can't control it, and that he might be forced to come back week 1 if he's not traded, moving Penn to swing tackle.
I think it's a little window into the way Trent's thinking. The team has more leverage than it first seemed, now that Penn is in house. I think Trent acknowledges that he will play rather than give up $11M in game checks, even though he'd prefer the staff be canned or a trade.
If Bruce stares him down, he'll come back to play for us. But I don't think he'd consider resigning here and you wonder how much of an issue he becomes over the course of the next two years. There is some sense in taking a trade if the offer is good enough.
Honestly his contract has 2 years left right? By then he'll be 33-34. Most LTs dont last that long after 34.
Buffalo Bob
08-01-2019, 11:23 AM
Trent's an awesome player but I think expecting Diggs or Landry back in trade is wishful thinking mainly because of relative age. Trent is 31 and has missed games each of the last few years. Landry and Diggs are so much younger and in prime.
If I get an offer for a 1st rounder I'd probably take it, but I'm not sure anybody would actually offer that. I continue to think the best course is stare him down, make him decide in week 1.
For the reason you mentioned, of age and missing 1/4 of the games the last 3 years I doubt an offer of a 1st would happen. I honestly think you are looking at a second at best. If he was 25 and never missed a start with his ability you could probably get a pair of 1's for him.
If Bruce stares him down, he'll come back to play for us. But I don't think he'd consider resigning here and you wonder how much of an issue he becomes over the course of the next two years. There is some sense in taking a trade if the offer is good enough.
This is a nightmare but the correct approach.
If Bruce wants to hold Trent hostage with this medical staff, Trent will get a second and third opinion on every injury and miss significant game time trying to keep himself healthy for when he is a free agent. If Trent is traded, we free up $23m over the next 2 years that we can use to resign Scherff(If he wants to stay).
Trent at 33 will still be a top 5 LT in the league and probably play for 4-5 additional years. TW is a freak athlete and in great shape for his size. He will be able to play a long time like Jackie Slater and Bruce Mathews.
It's a god damn shame it's come to this.
Schneed10
08-01-2019, 11:58 AM
Well said jamf. At some point Dan Snyder needs to make Bruce Allen wear the hat for this. Allen has been shrewd at making sure we don't get into cap trouble but he's responsible for alienating Cousins and and he's responsible for this bullshit with Trent.
On one hand I cringe at bringing up Cousins because I prefer to move on, but if you're evaluating the performance of the team president you have to look back at what happened and what could have been, if handled differently.
Allen fails through that lens in so many ways.
Let's see what happens with Trent. Right now I'm so fixated on what the offense will look like in week 1 I can barely think about anything else. At the end of the season when we're 7-9 again I'll break out the torches and pitchforks for Allen.
DYoungJelly
08-01-2019, 12:18 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/trent-williamss-relationship-with-redskins-is-fractured-and-theres-no-going-back/2019/08/01/6b8d6372-b400-11e9-8949-5f36ff92706e_story.html
This is the most detailed article I've seen written by an actual journalist on the matter.
The article suggests that waiting him out might not be fruitful.
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Schneed10
08-01-2019, 12:27 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/trent-williamss-relationship-with-redskins-is-fractured-and-theres-no-going-back/2019/08/01/6b8d6372-b400-11e9-8949-5f36ff92706e_story.html
This is the most detailed article I've seen written by an actual journalist on the matter.
The article suggests that waiting him out might not be fruitful.
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Outstanding piece of writing and this now seems like more than just JLC's typical bullshit reporting. Brewer has independently confirmed his own sources.
Fire Bruce today and trade Trent. Fuck our collective lives.
DYoungJelly
08-01-2019, 01:36 PM
Outstanding piece of writing and this now seems like more than just JLC's typical bullshit reporting. Brewer has independently confirmed his own sources.
Fire Bruce today and trade Trent. Fuck our collective lives.Agree.
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Chico23231
08-01-2019, 01:42 PM
Sheehan endorsed the Brewer article on the podcast...this isn't good folks.
Buffalo Bob
08-01-2019, 02:12 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/trent-williamss-relationship-with-redskins-is-fractured-and-theres-no-going-back/2019/08/01/6b8d6372-b400-11e9-8949-5f36ff92706e_story.html
This is the most detailed article I've seen written by an actual journalist on the matter.
The article suggests that waiting him out might not be fruitful.
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I will not go to Wapo without an ad blocker on. Is their another source for that article?