Trent Williams holding out for new deal


sandtrapjack
06-12-2019, 04:30 PM
sandtrapjack... we literally have nothing behind Williams. And at some point we'll be playing a rookie QB. That is his leverage. Yeah the team has more leverage, but he does have some.

I'm also confused why they didn't resign Ty. The Bills didn't give him a huge contract.

Well, yeah you do have other players on the roster. You do not have another "Trent Williams". Next man up.

But there is a reason why teams get to have 90 players on the roster entering training camp.

punch it in
06-12-2019, 08:00 PM
Well, yeah you do have other players on the roster. You do not have another "Trent Williams". Next man up.



But there is a reason why teams get to have 90 players on the roster entering training camp.



A team could have 290 players on the roster, or more, and the chances one of them is a Hall of Fame LT is not great. At all. It is a huge problem.

sandtrapjack
06-13-2019, 10:05 AM
A team could have 290 players on the roster, or more, and the chances one of them is a Hall of Fame LT is not great. At all. It is a huge problem.

Not arguing that it is not. But simply pointing out that with or without TW, someone will be lining up at LT on September 8th. To say there is 'literally no one' to play LT is an overstatement.

They may not be as good as TW. But do they have to be as good as Trent to be successful? Do you absolutely need a HOF caliber LT to succeed?

Schneed10
06-13-2019, 10:32 AM
Not arguing that it is not. But simply pointing out that with or without TW, someone will be lining up at LT on September 8th. To say there is 'literally no one' to play LT is an overstatement.

They may not be as good as TW. But do they have to be as good as Trent to be successful? Do you absolutely need a HOF caliber LT to succeed?

On a team that doesn't have a single star player, yes, you need your HOF LT to have a chance at succeeding. There's no Zeke, there's no Julio Jones, there's no Von Miller, no Luke Keuchley.

You're being kind of dense. Trent makes a major difference to this team, the kind of difference that could take them from 8-8 to 6-10.

Buffalo Bob
06-13-2019, 10:34 AM
On a team that doesn't have a single star player, yes, you need your HOF LT to have a chance at succeeding. There's no Zeke, there's no Julio Jones, there's no Von Miller, no Luke Keuchley.

You're being kind of dense. Trent makes a major difference to this team, the kind of difference that could take them from 8-8 to 6-10.

And keep your rookie, hopefully future franchise QB off the IR list.

sandtrapjack
06-13-2019, 10:50 AM
On a team that doesn't have a single star player, yes, you need your HOF LT to have a chance at succeeding. There's no Zeke, there's no Julio Jones, there's no Von Miller, no Luke Keuchley.

You're being kind of dense. Trent makes a major difference to this team, the kind of difference that could take them from 8-8 to 6-10.

Dense is a bit strong. Please read my statements a little more carefully. I was in agreement that Trent is a difference maker. My point is the team can succeed with a LT that is a notch or two below TWs skillset. I will remind you that the Eagles 'star LT' Jason Peters went on IR after 7 games in 2017 and did not play in the playoffs or Super Bowl that the Eagles won that season.

And we do not know if you have your 'Zeke/Saquon' yet. Guice coming back healthy and he can be a difference maker. I think he will beast it out. I am stoked about the RBs in the NFC East this season.....Saquon, Zeke, Guice.....rock on.

Holy shit. I am the Cowboys fan on this board and I am the only one with faith and hope for the Redskins? I need a drink.

Chico23231
06-13-2019, 11:22 AM
Dude...FFS, if you have been paying attention to the SKins the past couple seasons, most issues with the team concern the health and performance of the Oline. And now we are facing a crisis with the most important player of the of the line at the most important position, LT.

We need to get this solved and bring Trent back into the fold before camp starts.

BigHairedAristocrat
06-13-2019, 11:35 AM
Dude...FFS, if you have been paying attention to the SKins the past couple seasons, most issues with the team concern the health and performance of the Oline. And now we are facing a crisis with the most important player of the of the line at the most important position, LT.

We need to get this solved and bring Trent back into the fold before camp starts.

And one of the players who we've had health concerns with is.... wait for it...

Trent Williams.

He is 31 and has only been playing 75% of games lately. Due to the kind of injuries he's had and how often he's played hurt, John Clayton said on John Keim's podcast that he would probably have a shorter career than some other LTs. He's not a guy whose likely to be playing football in 5 years. He likely will be done in 2 or maybe 3. We have him under contract for 2 more years.

Its not like the team has done Trent wrong financially. When he signed his current contract, the team made him the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL. His contract is still among the top in the league. And again, he has not one, but two more years, on it. If Trent didn't want to play out that contract, he should have negotiated one with a shorter term.

Also, we don't need Trent "back in the fold" before training camp. He doesn't need the practice. His holdout will not extend into the regular season. This is really about the money and he won't want to miss the game checks. So this is not the "crisis" many are making it out to be.

The team may decided to restructure his current deal a bit to guarantee a little bit more of the money on it. Maybe give him an extra $500,000 bonus or something. But it would be downright foolish of them to give him any deal that would guarantee any new money beyond the next two years. All that would do is create a situation where we have a lot of money allocated to a player who will likely be missing more and more time as his health and performance declines.

skinsfaninok
06-13-2019, 11:55 AM
Per Trent's Social media, he is having a procedure today as well. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D88gpSrWwAA-hb7?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Schneed10
06-13-2019, 12:06 PM
Dense is a bit strong. Please read my statements a little more carefully. I was in agreement that Trent is a difference maker. My point is the team can succeed with a LT that is a notch or two below TWs skillset. I will remind you that the Eagles 'star LT' Jason Peters went on IR after 7 games in 2017 and did not play in the playoffs or Super Bowl that the Eagles won that season.

And we do not know if you have your 'Zeke/Saquon' yet. Guice coming back healthy and he can be a difference maker. I think he will beast it out. I am stoked about the RBs in the NFC East this season.....Saquon, Zeke, Guice.....rock on.

Holy shit. I am the Cowboys fan on this board and I am the only one with faith and hope for the Redskins? I need a drink.

Because you're an idiot. Comparing this Redskins team to the 2017 Eagles is nothing short of asinine. The Eagles may have succeeded without Peters but THIS team will not succeed without Trent.

There's a massive difference in the rosters - they had two very good QBs and we're not sure we even have one. They had receiving threats all over the place (who stayed healthy) in Ertz, Jeffrey, Agholor, Trey Burton, etc, we have one proven one who can't stay healthy (Reed). It's a ridiculous comparison that makes you look like you watch football as often as my grandmother.

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