Sorry, I disagree. Not all injuries are created equal. Some are bad luck, others are reoccurring.
In an old post I listed the high number of concussions Reed had in college. Before he got here. Yet he is still here ready to collect a huge pay check this year. He will get hurt in training camp like does EVERY YEAR. Snyder, Allen and Gruden made that decision to keep him here. They could paid me to tell them why we lead theeague in injuries. They will play Reed sparringly at first to protect him, then they will play him and he will get hurt. Does anyone want to bet on this?
Jordan Reed will count $9.7m on our cap this year. We could have gotten a Free Safety or blocking TE for that.
Of course but Reed’s situation doesn’t apply to everyone. The injuries are a mixed bag and it’s impossible to boil them all down to one cause.
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Defensewins
05-09-2019, 11:50 AM
Of course but Reed’s situation doesn’t apply to everyone. The injuries are a mixed bag and it’s impossible to boil them all down to one cause.
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I Never said it applied to everyone. I said not all injuries are created equal. Some are bad luck (meaning not reoccurring) and others are reoccurring. It is the players with multiple reoccurring injuries are the ones we need to unload. Reed is not the only one. Richardson is another that has multiple ac joint shoulder injuries and knee injuries. He is also collecting a big salary has a vast history of injuries. It is a choice to sign or draft players like Reed.
Tennskinsfan
05-09-2019, 11:55 AM
To me this is a mixed bag. It goes without saying that something had to give to fix this problem. I’m all for trying almost anything at this point. But I’m sorry what In the ever loving world is an ice machine to make ice out of Gatorade going to do. But I digress
Injuries to Alex Smith and Colt McCoy and even the nerve problem of Dunbar can not be helped. Those I consider flukes. If Dunbar’s nerve issue continues to be an issue it won’t be a fluke anymore.
I’m not even going to touch on Reed, we all know that story.
But the issues with the line year after year. I know it’s a grueling position, but at this point you cannot call it a fluke. Something has to be addressed.
As for Love and Guice. I think we may have reached a little bit in Love and got him earlier than was required. (But hey that’s why I don’t make the big bucks. They may have known something I didn’t). Anyways. With AP on the team again this year. Hopefully we don’t rush Guice back into the spotlight and have an RG3 disaster again. But having AP to work with those guys and our training staff on those type of injuries will hopefully be extremely helpful. That’s not to say that either one of them are the next AP but he came back a year after the injury and put up 2000 yards. And has been able to keep his legs fairly healthy.
Ok so let's say we dump Reed, Richardson, and Lauvao. That's a very small portion of the injuries we've had the past 2 years. It doesn't even begin to answer the question of why we've been hit so hard with injuries.
BigHairedAristocrat
05-09-2019, 12:01 PM
If there was "one answer" for this teams recent history tons of injuries, we would have fixed it already. There are likely some reasonable things the skins can do to improve with player health/safety, but a lot of it is likely just bad luck and losing when gambling on drafting/signing injury-prone players.
sevier2
05-09-2019, 12:06 PM
Ok so let's say we dump Reed, Richardson, and Lauvao. That's a very small portion of the injuries we've had the past 2 years. It doesn't even begin to answer the question of why we've been hit so hard with injuries.
I think Defensewins is saying that these types of injuries only add to our total every year. It doesn't necessarily explain it entirely.
Most injuries are bad luck and can't be planned for. But SOME of those injuries we had expected because of the players history.
If we stop signing players with an established history of injuries, our yearly total could be lowered, theoretically.
Personally, I think if the talent is there it's worth taking a chance on, especially draft choices on rookie contracts. But I agree that when you bring in players like P. Richardson and J. Reed you're putting your roster in a vulnerable position, leaving yourself in a fingers-crossed-I-hope-this-works-out type of situation. More so than normally.
Ruhskins
05-09-2019, 12:48 PM
Just listened to Michael Phillips on the Redskins Talk Podcast. The consensus from them was that is equals part bad luck and bad decisions.
I do feel that the fluke injuries this year (Alex, Schreff) were bigger and more impactful than the injuries due to bad decisions. If Alex and Schreff do not get injured (as bad as they did), I think things would have turned out differently IMO.
skinsnut
05-09-2019, 05:53 PM
Here's a scenario for you.
You have 2 top running backs on the squad....yes ...they run....so what sort of injuries are a problem? wrist? neck? head?....NO!...knees (duh) Cant run without em'
So...Both top RB's have MAJOR knee damage....so what does a team do that has a chronic injury management issue?....I know...lets draft a THIRD RB with MAJOR knee damage!
This is really a stupid question.
skinsfan69
05-09-2019, 05:59 PM
But again, not that Alex Smith has some kind of bad injury history, he doesn't. But you signed an older QB when you already had a younger one who was durable. You kept Colt around which is fine, but if he has to play for a long period of time when has he showed he can stay healthy? Knowing that it's probably a good idea to keep 3 QB's. Always keep QB's cause it's the most important position on your team. Probably should have kept Sudfeld or at least drafted someone instead of signing scrubs like Sanchez, Johnson and the guy from Stanford.
Hopefully these guys have learned from their mistakes. Look in the mirror and use common sense, instead of hiring "consultants." lol.
skinsfan69
05-09-2019, 06:07 PM
Here's a scenario for you.
You have 2 top running backs on the squad....yes ...they run....so what sort of injuries are a problem? wrist? neck? head?....NO!...knees (duh) Cant run without em'
So...Both top RB's have MAJOR knee damage....so what does a team do that has a chronic injury management issue?....I know...lets draft a THIRD RB with MAJOR knee damage!
This is really a stupid question.
Looking at the Love pick, you bring up a good point there. You're also leaving out CT who never stays healthy. I was fine with the Love pick cause of the upside as well as he's a 4th rounder. Had they taken him earlier that would have been stupid.