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GridIron26 05-09-2019, 12:31 PM After watching every snap from 2018 on Haskins:
STRENGTHS
1. Accurate passer from the pocket, hits all 3 phases well. Short , Medium , Deep.
2. Shows resilience when his team is down in the 4th QTR, led a couple of very good comeback drives late.
3. Leader, you can see his guys love playing with him.
4. Kid is smart, he can recognize coverage very quickly after the snap.
WEAKNESS
1. Footwork needs work, too many times he threw off balance and mechanics were off.
2. Played in a very pass friendly system (as do most College QB's)
3. Times under pressure he missed wide open and I mean WIDE open guys running downfield.
4. Not really a weakness but he isn't very mobile, better than some think though but he is 100% a pocket passer.
Overall I think he's going to be as good as Kirk was, he will put up good numbers if surrounded by weapons like Kirk had. The big difference? Haskins is great in the RZ and in late game situations.
Thanks for the analysis. I'm not too concerned about the footwork issue, since that is something Haskins can fix eventually. The biggest thing I love about Haskins is his ability to handle comeback pressure, which is completely opposite of Cousins. While Redskins offense is good enough to protect and develop Haskins this year, Redskins definitely will need to upgrade receivers and maybe tackle position (TW is getting old and Moses need to show he can play at top level consistently) next year to help Haskins go even further.
skinsfaninok 05-09-2019, 12:55 PM Thanks for the analysis. I'm not too concerned about the footwork issue, since that is something Haskins can fix eventually. The biggest thing I love about Haskins is his ability to handle comeback pressure, which is completely opposite of Cousins. While Redskins offense is good enough to protect and develop Haskins this year, Redskins definitely will need to upgrade receivers and maybe tackle position (TW is getting old and Moses need to show he can play at top level consistently) next year to help Haskins go even further.
Weapons will have to be upgraded yearly, especially at TE.
Trent is fine, believe it or not he's still only 30 yrs old
Weapons will have to be upgraded yearly, especially at TE.
Trent is fine, believe it or not he's still only 30 yrs old
I would wait 2 more seasons before spending a 1st rounder on his replacement. Anticipating team needs for next or that year is tough but, I really think we're trending in the right direction (on paper) with the youth we have to make that happen.
GridIron26 05-09-2019, 02:08 PM Weapons will have to be upgraded yearly, especially at TE.
Trent is fine, believe it or not he's still only 30 yrs old
I take it back. I didn't realize Trent is only 30, for some reason I thought he is mid 30's by now :embarrass
skinsnut 05-09-2019, 05:44 PM I am frankly not concerned with Haskins as our starter from a passing game standpoint. He will learn the best on the field and in practice getting all the reps.
Putting him on a shelf is crazy if he can play...that ironically could stunt him too as he wont get any reps, or attention if he isn't the starter once the bullets start flying.
I am more concerned with him playing under center. Any new QB must also learn the playbook and establish rapport with playmakers too.
It is a real stretch for him to learn all this, and audibles, checkdowns, protections, etc.
But from my very limited knowledge, he has a bunch of shotgun experience, but not so much snapping the ball.
Am I wrong?
skinsfaninok 05-10-2019, 11:33 AM I am frankly not concerned with Haskins as our starter from a passing game standpoint. He will learn the best on the field and in practice getting all the reps.
Putting him on a shelf is crazy if he can play...that ironically could stunt him too as he wont get any reps, or attention if he isn't the starter once the bullets start flying.
I am more concerned with him playing under center. Any new QB must also learn the playbook and establish rapport with playmakers too.
It is a real stretch for him to learn all this, and audibles, checkdowns, protections, etc.
But from my very limited knowledge, he has a bunch of shotgun experience, but not so much snapping the ball.
Am I wrong?
He has more Shotgun for sure but he has no issues under center on film anyway. His quick release makes him a tough QB to defend. That is something coaches hate to face, a QB that can release it quickly.
Chico23231 05-10-2019, 11:59 AM The Kevin Sheehan Show podcast first 12 minutes today is a must listen too for Redskins fans. Must listen when it comes to Haskins development
Sheehan sums up the biggest fear of Haskins development perfectly and the lessons Snyder MUST have learned from the RG3 experience. Make no mistake, Haskins was Snyder's pick. Snyder entitled RG3 previously because of his relationship. Snyder MUST...MUST leave Haskins development up to the Coaching staff and can have ZERO input on who starts or how Haskins should be developed.
Call me crazy but I do think Snyder learned from the RG3 fiasco.
I highly recommend checking out John Keim's latest pod with Matt Bowen. Good analysis on Haskins and Sweat, also some good stuff about playing for Spurrier vs Gibbs.
Chico23231 05-10-2019, 12:42 PM Call me crazy but I do think Snyder learned from the RG3 fiasco.
I stated this before, but Gruden was able to make the case of Cousins over RG3 which lead them to a playoff birth 2015. So that to me is significant...
But we know many have said, after the embarrassing last year with the ratings and home games.... Snyder may have told Bruce his strategy isn't working...we need blue chippers. So Old Snyder could be rearing its ugly head again.
We will see, but I cant simply say he has learned...yet.
Oh god, Vinny in the Sheenhans podcast says "Dan did a good job with his evaluations of Haskins and made a good pick"....Vinny said he really liked Haskins. damn
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