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MTK
04-10-2019, 10:52 AM
I am intrigued enough to be both excited and nervous if they selected him at 15. Pros: big, pretty athletic, played in a pro style offense, showed an ability to read defenses, and the biggest pro of all he throws with anticipation which is critical in Gruden's timing-based scheme. Con, and it's a big one: not a very quick release.

Quick release is important if you're trying to throw to a spot where the WR isn't yet, but headed to. Slower release means the DB sees it and may have time to beat the WR to the spot. It reduces your ability to run after the catch, so receivers catch and get hit right away more frequently.

He had only 59% completion at Duke but you can easily chalk that up to supporting cast, I don't perceive there to be big inaccuracy issues.

But the quick release thing is an issue. Cousins succeeded with Gruden, at least to some degree, because he a) knew the offense, b) could read a defense, c) threw with anticipation and d) got rid of the ball with a release quick enough to keep the DB from jumping the routes.

I think Jones will give you a, b and c, but I'm not sure he gives you enough of d. If he can, then he becomes a very intriguing player to me.

As a prospect I just can't put him as the 15th best player so he would be a big reach there IMO.

Schneed10
04-10-2019, 11:00 AM
As a prospect I just can't put him as the 15th best player so he would be a big reach there IMO.

I can definitely see your side of it. At 15 there should be a corner or a pass rusher that could be very impactful for us.

I guess where Jones becomes intriguing is just our huge giant gaping hole at QB. But that can be where drafting for need causes you to make some mistakes.

Do you go safe - for a defender who you know can make a difference? Or do you roll the dice at QB?

I hope they end up getting Rosen with a package of lower picks, so it doesn't come to this at 15. Jones makes me nervous enough that I wouldn't feel great about him at 15.

Schneed10
04-10-2019, 11:02 AM
so, to summarize, you're saying you can't get enough of Daniel Jones' D?

He does go deep well...

MTK
04-10-2019, 11:23 AM
I can definitely see your side of it. At 15 there should be a corner or a pass rusher that could be very impactful for us.

I guess where Jones becomes intriguing is just our huge giant gaping hole at QB. But that can be where drafting for need causes you to make some mistakes.

Do you go safe - for a defender who you know can make a difference? Or do you roll the dice at QB?

I hope they end up getting Rosen with a package of lower picks, so it doesn't come to this at 15. Jones makes me nervous enough that I wouldn't feel great about him at 15.

The Rosen deal just make so much sense for both sides I almost don't want to think about it not happening. But if it doesn't I think you have to go BPA at 15 and get ready for that thrilling Colt and Case camp battle.

Chico23231
04-10-2019, 11:29 AM
D Jones not a first round pick imo...just an ok arm, accuracy issues on deep ball...

If we grabbed him in the second I wouldn't be mad, but he isn't ready to start.

MTK
04-10-2019, 11:34 AM
D Jones not a first round pick imo...just an ok arm, accuracy issues on deep ball...

If we grabbed him in the second I wouldn't be mad, but he isn't ready to start.

At this point I don't want to go QB in the 2nd or 3rd. We need guys that can contribute right now. A day 3 QB is fine with me, but for rounds 1-3 let's stick with guys that can come in and be ready to play significant time this year.

sdskinsfan2001
04-10-2019, 12:21 PM
At this point I don't want to go QB in the 2nd or 3rd. We need guys that can contribute right now. A day 3 QB is fine with me, but for rounds 1-3 let's stick with guys that can come in and be ready to play significant time this year.

We have so many holes, there really is no wrong strategy to me in the 1st 3 rounds. We just need to make sure we pick the right guys at each position/slot that we decide to go with. Minus a kicker, there is really no position I would disagree using our picks in the 1st 3 rounds on. I have preferences but am open to just about everything.

Skinsfanatic
04-10-2019, 12:50 PM
We have so many holes, there really is no wrong strategy to me in the 1st 3 rounds.

Bruce Allen - "Hold my beer."

sdskinsfan2001
04-10-2019, 02:00 PM
Bruce Allen - "Hold my beer."

Lol, yeah, knock on wood. Never count out Bruce.

I should have said no wrong REASONABLE strategy...

REDSKINS4ever
04-10-2019, 02:45 PM
If the Redskins go with edge rusher, who you guys feel is the best pass rusher....Polite, Ferrell, or Burns ?

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