New 4th and 15 rule..................

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skinsfan69
03-25-2019, 03:34 PM
I love this rule. They have made onside kicks impossible to recover. Put the offense back out on the field and add more drama to the game.

gibbsrcnfan
03-25-2019, 04:01 PM
LMAO Sorry but this is some backyard football XFL shit. No way

lol ,i'm in total agreement ..let me hit the pause button.

Giantone
03-25-2019, 05:03 PM
I love this rule. They have made onside kicks impossible to recover. Put the offense back out on the field and add more drama to the game.

No they haven't ,harder yeah but that's where the coach's earn their money ,so I guess there will be no more special teams play .

jamf
03-25-2019, 05:10 PM
I guess we will see more Chris Thompson screen.

mooby
03-25-2019, 05:33 PM
First things first, fuck John Mara.

I like the concept, as everybody knows the onside kick is now basically useless. And I agree with everyone else they shouldn't put the ball back in the offense's hands for another play.

So they need to create a new special teams play. But the conflict lies in the fact they are trying to eliminate kickoffs as that is one of the more dangerous parts of the game. So what special teams play can be created that doesn't resemble a kickoff? Idk the answer to that one.

Skinsfanatic
03-25-2019, 05:43 PM
First things first, fuck John Mara.

I like the concept, as everybody knows the onside kick is now basically useless. And I agree with everyone else they shouldn't put the ball back in the offense's hands for another play.

So they need to create a new special teams play. But the conflict lies in the fact they are trying to eliminate kickoffs as that is one of the more dangerous parts of the game. So what special teams play can be created that doesn't resemble a kickoff? Idk the answer to that one.

60 yard field goal attempt to keep possession.

FrenchSkin
03-25-2019, 06:02 PM
I have another idea to rise the % of successful onside kicks: make the kickers practice it more. The fact that these guys can kick it from 60 yards but can't consistently make onside kicks is ridiculous. Most of the time it's really off. If it was more accurate, then it'll probably be something like 80% / 20% for each team to recover the ball. Maybe even 70/30.

Skinsfanatic
03-25-2019, 06:11 PM
I have another idea to rise the % of successful onside kicks: make the kickers practice it more. The fact that these guys can kick it from 60 yards but can't consistently make onside kicks is ridiculous. Most of the time it's really off. If it was more accurate, then it'll probably be something like 80% / 20% for each team to recover the ball. Maybe even 70/30.

Interesting. You know what, it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over. I bet moving the "minimum yards the ball must travel before being touched" to 7 or 8 yards would greatly increase the chances of the kicking team recovering.

kct1975
03-25-2019, 06:59 PM
Interesting. You know what, it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over. I bet moving the "minimum yards the ball must travel before being touched" to 7 or 8 yards would greatly increase the chances of the kicking team recovering.

Wow!

Honestly that is the Best Idea I have heard so far!

Not only would reducing the recovery yards increase the chances of the kicking team recovering, but I honestly think that it would lessen the chance of injuries since there is less room for the players to get up speed and hit with force.

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FrenchSkin
03-26-2019, 04:55 AM
Interesting. You know what, it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over. I bet moving the "minimum yards the ball must travel before being touched" to 7 or 8 yards would greatly increase the chances of the kicking team recovering.

You may very well have a very good point.

But at what point "it seems like every time it looks like a successful onside, it turns out it only traveled 8-9 yards and they turn the ball over" is caused by the fact that the receiving team doesn't try to recover the ball before it travels 10 yards because if they touch it it becomes available for both teams ? If that's the case, moving it to 8 yards wouldn't change much.
But maybe a couple of yards would indeed make it a tad more easy on kickers.

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