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KI Skins Fan 03-25-2019, 10:56 AM So why would someone trade for that??
Three reasons off the top of my head:
1. Desperation.
2. It is human nature to hope that things and people will turn it around.
3. If we could all just broaden our view of NFL front offices beyond our own, we would see that there are plenty of times when other FO's make moves just as stupid as most of the ones our FO makes.
Defensewins 03-25-2019, 11:05 AM Three reasons off the top of my head:
1. Desperation.
2. It is human nature to hope that things and people will turn it around.
3. If we could all just broaden our view of NFL front offices beyond our own, we would see that there are plenty of times when other FO's make moves just as stupid as most of the ones our FO makes.
When have the Patriots under Bill Belichick ever been desperate or made a desperate move? They always draft and develop players well.
Chico23231 03-25-2019, 11:10 AM I've got no issue with looking to replace him, but this idea that someone would trade for him is laughable. Especially the Patriots with how they value blocking from their TE's.
I love Reed and his game...I think he would benefit in a system where he is a second TE and more offline than inline.
I thought going into last season would be make or break...him and Alex didn't work well and later was injured. So ready to break
Skinsfanatic 03-25-2019, 11:12 AM So why would someone trade for that??
Because you believe that a better organization could get more out of a player who has shown flashes of brilliance than a shitty organization did.
Buffalo Bob 03-25-2019, 11:24 AM I love Reed and his game...I think he would benefit in a system where he is a second TE and more offline than inline.
I thought going into last season would be make or break...him and Alex didn't work well and later was injured. So ready to break
I had enough of him on the pass in the end zone that was intercepted when Reed was too busy giving Alex a look instead of immediately going after the guy that picked off the pass. Of course I bet Gruden didn't even get after him for that crap. Reed is either in street clothes or playing too hurt to be a factor half the time and he can't block. Total waste of money, he needs to be cut.
Defensewins 03-25-2019, 11:56 AM Because you believe that a better organization could get more out of a player who has shown flashes of brilliance than a shitty organization did.
Reed's lack of "brilliance" with Redskins has more to do with Reed than our shitty organization. Reed is made of glass and breaks very easily. Reed has a LONG history of injuries, see below. I found this on line. It include SIX reported concussions that caused him to lose games. A change of scenery is not going to make him less injury prone. Age makes it worse.
Jordan Reed Injury History
Dec 9, 2018 NFL Pedal Toe Sprain Reed strained a muscle in his right big toe in the 1st quarter against the Giants and missed the final 3 games.
Feb 15, 2018 NFL Pedal Toe Fracture Reed underwent toe surgery during the 2018 offseason, presumably on the fracture toe that hampered him during 2017 training camp.
Oct 29, 2017 NFL Thigh Hamstring Tear Grade 3 Reed injured his
left hamstring and it sidelined him for several games. He was eventually put on the IR ending his season.
Sep 17, 2017 NFL Chest Pectoral Bruise Reed suffered a chest contusion and missed a game because of it. He returned to limited practice and then full game action.
Jul 26, 2017 NFL Pedal Toe Fracture Reed said a toe injury had bothered him since the 2016 season but "flared up" after a stem-cell treatment following OTAs. It was eventually deemed a fracture and led to other compensatory foot issues.
Nov 24, 2016 NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Separation Reed sustained a Grade 3 separation of the A/C joint in his left shoulder. He finished the game but missed the following week plus Week 16 (after returning for 2 games in between).
Oct 9, 2016 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion in Week 5 and missed the following 2 games. He initially tried to hide his symptoms but entered the protocol during the week following the injury game.
Nov 22, 2015 NFL Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2 Reed sustained a left MCL sprain but continued to play through the injury.
Oct 4, 2015 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 After taking a big hit in his Week 4 matchup, Reed suffered a concussion along with a couple other injuries (MCL and ankle sprain). He was forced to miss the next 2 weeks of action.
Sep 17, 2015 NFL Leg Quad Strain Reed "tweaked" a quad in Thursday's practice but was ready for Sunday's game.
Aug 11, 2015 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed strained a hamstring 2 days before the 1st preseason game. He sat out that contest and 1 more before returning in preseason Week 3.
May 28, 2015 NFL Knee Strain Grade 1 Reed had a surgical "procedure" in May for his knee after straining his knee during the offseason.
Nov 16, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed strained his right hamstring in Week 11 and missed the following game.
Sep 7, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 During the 1st quarter against the Texans, Reed pulled his left hamstring and was sidelined for the next 4 games.
Aug 23, 2014 NFL Hand Thumb Sprain Reed suffered a sprained thumb in the preseason game against the Ravens but missed no game time because of it.
Nov 17, 2013 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 3 Reed suffered a concussion in Week 11. He neared a return several times but experienced recurring symptoms. Reed ultimately landed on IR.
Sep 22, 2013 NFL Leg Thigh Bruise Reed suffered a quad contusion and was sidelined for the following week.
Sep 22, 2012 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion but didn't miss any time, perhaps thanks to a bye week in between.
Nov 19, 2011 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed missed the final 2 games of the 2011 college season with an unspecified ankle injury.
Oct 15, 2011 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion at some point during the 2011 college season. He didn't appear to lose any games to it, missing time that season with ankle and hamstring injuries.
Sep 10, 2011 Non-NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed missed two games at UF because of a hamstring injury.
Nov 27, 2010 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion in Florida's final regular-season game. He returned for the bowl game a little more than a month later.
Skinsfanatic 03-25-2019, 11:58 AM Reed's lack of "brilliance" with Redskins has more to do with Reed than our shitty organization. Reed is made of glass and breaks very easily. He a LONG history of injuries, see below. I found this on line. It include SIX reported concussions that caused him to lose games.
Jordan Reed Injury History
Dec 9, 2018 NFL Pedal Toe Sprain Reed strained a muscle in his right big toe in the 1st quarter against the Giants and missed the final 3 games.
Feb 15, 2018 NFL Pedal Toe Fracture Reed underwent toe surgery during the 2018 offseason, presumably on the fracture toe that hampered him during 2017 training camp.
Oct 29, 2017 NFL Thigh Hamstring Tear Grade 3 Reed injured his
left hamstring and it sidelined him for several games. He was eventually put on the IR ending his season.
Sep 17, 2017 NFL Chest Pectoral Bruise Reed suffered a chest contusion and missed a game because of it. He returned to limited practice and then full game action.
Jul 26, 2017 NFL Pedal Toe Fracture Reed said a toe injury had bothered him since the 2016 season but "flared up" after a stem-cell treatment following OTAs. It was eventually deemed a fracture and led to other compensatory foot issues.
Nov 24, 2016 NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Separation Reed sustained a Grade 3 separation of the A/C joint in his left shoulder. He finished the game but missed the following week plus Week 16 (after returning for 2 games in between).
Oct 9, 2016 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion in Week 5 and missed the following 2 games. He initially tried to hide his symptoms but entered the protocol during the week following the injury game.
Nov 22, 2015 NFL Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2 Reed sustained a left MCL sprain but continued to play through the injury.
Oct 4, 2015 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 After taking a big hit in his Week 4 matchup, Reed suffered a concussion along with a couple other injuries (MCL and ankle sprain). He was forced to miss the next 2 weeks of action.
Sep 17, 2015 NFL Leg Quad Strain Reed "tweaked" a quad in Thursday's practice but was ready for Sunday's game.
Aug 11, 2015 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed strained a hamstring 2 days before the 1st preseason game. He sat out that contest and 1 more before returning in preseason Week 3.
May 28, 2015 NFL Knee Strain Grade 1 Reed had a surgical "procedure" in May for his knee after straining his knee during the offseason.
Nov 16, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed strained his right hamstring in Week 11 and missed the following game.
Sep 7, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 During the 1st quarter against the Texans, Reed pulled his left hamstring and was sidelined for the next 4 games.
Aug 23, 2014 NFL Hand Thumb Sprain Reed suffered a sprained thumb in the preseason game against the Ravens but missed no game time because of it.
Nov 17, 2013 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 3 Reed suffered a concussion in Week 11. He neared a return several times but experienced recurring symptoms. Reed ultimately landed on IR.
Sep 22, 2013 NFL Leg Thigh Bruise Reed suffered a quad contusion and was sidelined for the following week.
Sep 22, 2012 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion but didn't miss any time, perhaps thanks to a bye week in between.
Nov 19, 2011 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed missed the final 2 games of the 2011 college season with an unspecified ankle injury.
Oct 15, 2011 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion at some point during the 2011 college season. He didn't appear to lose any games to it, missing time that season with ankle and hamstring injuries.
Sep 10, 2011 Non-NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed missed two games at UF because of a hamstring injury.
Nov 27, 2010 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion in Florida's final regular-season game. He returned for the bowl game a little more than a month later.
To be clear, I didn't say they would do it or that it would make sense. I said IF you do it, that would be the reason why - because you believe your organization is special and can do better with someone else's problem.
KI Skins Fan 03-25-2019, 12:23 PM When have the Patriots under Bill Belichick ever been desperate or made a desperate move? They always draft and develop players well.
Perhaps, I was a bit off-topic if the conversation was supposed to be strictly about the Patriots. I was talking about any of the many NFL FO's making a move for Reed.
skinsfaninok 03-25-2019, 12:39 PM Reed's lack of "brilliance" with Redskins has more to do with Reed than our shitty organization. Reed is made of glass and breaks very easily. Reed has a LONG history of injuries, see below. I found this on line. It include SIX reported concussions that caused him to lose games. A change of scenery is not going to make him less injury prone. Age makes it worse.
Jordan Reed Injury History
Dec 9, 2018 NFL Pedal Toe Sprain Reed strained a muscle in his right big toe in the 1st quarter against the Giants and missed the final 3 games.
Feb 15, 2018 NFL Pedal Toe Fracture Reed underwent toe surgery during the 2018 offseason, presumably on the fracture toe that hampered him during 2017 training camp.
Oct 29, 2017 NFL Thigh Hamstring Tear Grade 3 Reed injured his
left hamstring and it sidelined him for several games. He was eventually put on the IR ending his season.
Sep 17, 2017 NFL Chest Pectoral Bruise Reed suffered a chest contusion and missed a game because of it. He returned to limited practice and then full game action.
Jul 26, 2017 NFL Pedal Toe Fracture Reed said a toe injury had bothered him since the 2016 season but "flared up" after a stem-cell treatment following OTAs. It was eventually deemed a fracture and led to other compensatory foot issues.
Nov 24, 2016 NFL Shoulder A/C Joint Separation Reed sustained a Grade 3 separation of the A/C joint in his left shoulder. He finished the game but missed the following week plus Week 16 (after returning for 2 games in between).
Oct 9, 2016 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion in Week 5 and missed the following 2 games. He initially tried to hide his symptoms but entered the protocol during the week following the injury game.
Nov 22, 2015 NFL Knee MCL Sprain Grade 2 Reed sustained a left MCL sprain but continued to play through the injury.
Oct 4, 2015 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 After taking a big hit in his Week 4 matchup, Reed suffered a concussion along with a couple other injuries (MCL and ankle sprain). He was forced to miss the next 2 weeks of action.
Sep 17, 2015 NFL Leg Quad Strain Reed "tweaked" a quad in Thursday's practice but was ready for Sunday's game.
Aug 11, 2015 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed strained a hamstring 2 days before the 1st preseason game. He sat out that contest and 1 more before returning in preseason Week 3.
May 28, 2015 NFL Knee Strain Grade 1 Reed had a surgical "procedure" in May for his knee after straining his knee during the offseason.
Nov 16, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed strained his right hamstring in Week 11 and missed the following game.
Sep 7, 2014 NFL Thigh Hamstring Strain Grade 2 During the 1st quarter against the Texans, Reed pulled his left hamstring and was sidelined for the next 4 games.
Aug 23, 2014 NFL Hand Thumb Sprain Reed suffered a sprained thumb in the preseason game against the Ravens but missed no game time because of it.
Nov 17, 2013 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 3 Reed suffered a concussion in Week 11. He neared a return several times but experienced recurring symptoms. Reed ultimately landed on IR.
Sep 22, 2013 NFL Leg Thigh Bruise Reed suffered a quad contusion and was sidelined for the following week.
Sep 22, 2012 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion but didn't miss any time, perhaps thanks to a bye week in between.
Nov 19, 2011 Non-NFL Pedal Ankle Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed missed the final 2 games of the 2011 college season with an unspecified ankle injury.
Oct 15, 2011 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion at some point during the 2011 college season. He didn't appear to lose any games to it, missing time that season with ankle and hamstring injuries.
Sep 10, 2011 Non-NFL Thigh Hamstring Sprain/Pull Unspecified Grade 1 Reed missed two games at UF because of a hamstring injury.
Nov 27, 2010 Non-NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Reed suffered a concussion in Florida's final regular-season game. He returned for the bowl game a little more than a month later.
He needs to retire
Defensewins 03-25-2019, 12:49 PM Perhaps, I was a bit off-topic if the conversation was supposed to be strictly about the Patriots. I was talking about any of the many NFL FO's making a move for Reed.
You are right, you all's conversation did say "someone", not necessarily Patriots.
I just saw the trade Reed conversation spin off the talk of Gronk's retirement and that they might 'need' a TE.
I still think everyone in the NFL has a copy Reed's long injury list and are fully aware of his concussion issues.
I am not sure if the Redskins released him today, Reed might be out of football?
With all of the documented CTE concerns, Reed might be better off retiring like Gronk. But Reed may not be ready financially or is in denial.
I will reiterate he is not worth the close to $10million dollar cap hit in the next three years on his current contract. It is not his talent it his health. It is time to cut him.
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