Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant

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DYoungJelly
02-04-2019, 09:14 PM
If Mr. Stuck on Stupid Jay Gruden is going to keep the duties of calling the plays what does promoting O'Connell to OC help? He's just another meaningless offensive assistant with an irrelevant title.

I don't think any stock can be placed in Bruce's statement on play calling.

Cooley has gone in depth about the opaque public position on play calling when McVay was first promoted to OC.

He said the lack of clarity was to protect McVay from media and public pressure and scrutiny.

The same thing may very well be going on presently.

skinsfaninok
02-04-2019, 09:57 PM
Well there’s more the OC does like installing the weekly game plans



Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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GridIron26
02-05-2019, 08:26 AM
Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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I hope so. It would be great opportunity for O'Connell to show us what he can do.

BigHairedAristocrat
02-05-2019, 12:42 PM
That's also not true. There had been some reports (Can't remember if it was Keim or one of the other beat reporters) that mentioned that Schaffer was getting some looks for GM with other teams. He's a very valuable part of the front office.

I've seen plenty of reports to that effect for Kyle Smith, but nothing for Schaffer. If other teams are interested in Schaffer for GM, then we're going to have to lose one of them at some point and I'd choose Smith in a heartbeat.

An alternative is that we do as i suggested and promote BOTH of them: Schaffer to Team President and Smith to GM. Win/Win.

BigHairedAristocrat
02-05-2019, 12:43 PM
Yeah but I don't see Jay calling plays with this promotion, maybe I'm wrong but I'd say KO is the guy

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Bruce explicitly said Jay would continue to call plays (At least for now).

As I've pointed out before, Jay is in a lose-lose position if he lets KO call plays. Jays only shot as maintaining his own job security is to keep calling plays and hope the team wins.

MTK
02-05-2019, 12:57 PM
^
You really believe anything Bruce says at this point??

Jay needs to win period


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BigHairedAristocrat
02-05-2019, 01:08 PM
^
You really believe anything Bruce says at this point??

Jay needs to win period


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I don't believe anything Bruce says, but given that they promoted OConnell and fans generally seemed to like the move, if Bruce wanted to ride that small amount of good will, he could have said KO would call plays or that Jay would decide. The fact he explicitly squashed the fans hope means that, more likely than not, the plan is for Jay to call plays.

If Jay lets KO call plays and the skins win, it doesn't help Jay. KO will get all the credit and Jay will be sent packing.

Jays only hope of remaining as HC is for the team to win in such a way that Jay receives the credit. After 5 years, its abundantly apparent that Jay is very self conscious in this regard. He's consistently brought in lower-level talent to his staff and spurned guys who he could perceive as being a threat to him. I have no confidence Jay will suddenly start doing what is best for the team and not what Jay thinks is best for him personally.

We also must remember that promoting KO was almost certainly not Jays idea. reports were going around for a while that Snyder loved KO and wanted to do everything possible to ensure he didn't walk away like McVay did. KOs promotion was almost certainly a directive from Snyder.

MTK
02-05-2019, 02:51 PM
The same Gruden that had McVay calling plays for a couple of years under him, the same Gruden that had KOC calling plays last year when Sanchez was in the game?

Of course winning games at any cost helps Gruden. Do you really think if they win 10 or 11 games it won't help get Gruden an extension? Or at least put him in a good spot to land a HC job elsewhere?

Bottom line is Gruden needs to win, period.

BigHairedAristocrat
02-05-2019, 05:14 PM
The same Gruden that had McVay calling plays for a couple of years under him, the same Gruden that had KOC calling plays last year when Sanchez was in the game?

McVay was here before Gruden. I'm sure Gruden was happy McVay got another job when he did, because if he had stayed around another year, you better believe Jay would have been fired and McVay promoted. And you're assuming it was Gruden's decision to give KOC a shot at calling a handful of plays... given the reports we've heard about how Snyder has been enamored with KOC for a while, its quite possible this was an edict from above, although that is just speculation.

Of course winning games at any cost helps Gruden. Do you really think if they win 10 or 11 games it won't help get Gruden an extension?
No. I don't think it will help him all. If O'Connell is calling the plays, he will get all of the credit for the teams success.

Or at least put him in a good spot to land a HC job elsewhere?
It might help him, but it depends on how many jobs are open and what other candidates are available. Jay has had a track record of mediocrity as an OC. He's respected by the players because he's a "players coach" but nothing about him inspires confidence as a HC. The only scenarios where i think other teams want Jay as a HC is where the team experiences a degree of success which i think is outside the realm of possibility.


Bottom line is Gruden needs to win, period.
Jay is smart enough to understand the situation that he's in and his only chance of staying here in 2020 or getting a job elsewhere is having monumental success this year. Do you really think Jay feels that his best shot of having that success is:
A) turning over play-calling duties to someone with incredibility limited experience
B) "Controlling his own destiny" and retaining play-calling duties himself

MTK
02-05-2019, 05:30 PM
McVay started calling plays under Gruden so I don’t get the logic that he’s so insecure to not let anyone else handle those duties. And he also had O’Connell calling plays last year when Sanchez was on the field.



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