Redskins 2019 PRE Draft thread

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sdskinsfan2001
01-17-2019, 08:46 PM
Trade down and take Ryan Finley from NC State. Extra pick(s) and a QB that is just as good as everyone besides Haskins. All the other guys are wild cards. Definitely don't want Murray. Way too small.

Note - Haskins is no lock, but his talent level is clearly above the others imho.

MTK
01-18-2019, 09:17 AM
I'm not against trading up if it's a move to something like 10 or 12. Top 5? No way.

Schneed10
01-18-2019, 09:22 AM
I agree they should not trade up. There is a chance Lock might be available in the first....there is no way he lasts until the 2nd round.

Don't think I'd take Lock at 15, whether there or not. Too many accuracy questions for me. If you look at his TD passes he had dudes wide open, so open that any dipshit could connect on the pass. If you watch it and pretend the defender isn't there, you get less impressed with the accuracy of his deep ball. WRs having to come back to the ball a couple steps, etc. and it's not in the direction of throwing the WR open.

skinsfaninok
01-18-2019, 09:26 AM
Don't think I'd take Lock at 15, whether there or not. Too many accuracy questions for me. If you look at his TD passes he had dudes wide open, so open that any dipshit could connect on the pass. If you watch it and pretend the defender isn't there, you get less impressed with the accuracy of his deep ball. WRs having to come back to the ball a couple steps, etc. and it's not in the direction of throwing the WR open.

He's just not very accurate, I would take a chance on him in the 2nd possibly but no way in the 1st. Will Grier at 15 is very possible. May be a tad of a reach but he's a QB that can make all the throws and he can move just enough to get away from trouble. I don't want Murray as hard as that may be to believe, I think he would have to be in the Gun most of the time. If hes there at 15 and they take him, o well but please don't mortgage the future for the kid.

Chico23231
01-18-2019, 09:31 AM
I am not sold on this draft class at QB....I think the OSU Haskins kid is decent, best of the bunch, but Grier is ok....I don't see first round top talent though. I wouldn't object to either at our spot. But I really need everyone within the Organization to be onboard with the choice. Don't force a bad choice.

But hey because of our stupidity we will be forced into a bad position again.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-18-2019, 01:35 PM
I’m fundamentally opposed to drafting a QB in the first 3 rounds this year.

1) Alex smith can’t be comfortably cut this year or next year. If there is even a chance he comes back and can play in 2020, do we really want to invest a high pick on a QB in 2019?
2) this appears to be a relatively weak QB class at the top.
3) and this is the big one - drafting a QB high doesn’t make sense given the situation with Gruden. Unless he suddenly turns things around, this is very likely his last year here. A rookie QB is almost certainly not going play well enough to help Gruden keep his job another year. And do we really want to draft a QB this year and have the new HC we get next be saddled with the guy Gruden and Bruce pick in 2019?

We obviously have a major QB hole, but it just doesn’t make long-term sense for us to draft one high this year

Schneed10
01-18-2019, 01:59 PM
But keep in mind you can't just assume the stars will align next year, or the year after, for us to be in position to select one then. As we sit here now, Tua and Justin Herbert will come out, plus a couple others, and figure to go high. But what if we go 8-8 in 2019 and we're picking 16th in 2020? Or what if Tua has a bad year and we question whether he's worth a 1st rounder? What if Justin Herbert gets hurt like McKenzie Milton level hurt?

Can't count on it. If a QB you think has franchise chops is there at 15, this franchise must take him. They're hard to come by and you can't count on it.

If you don't think Haskins, Lock, Murray or Jones are worth a 1st rounder then that's one thing. But the reason to pass on a QB can't be 'because next year will be a better opportunity'. We can't know that.

We had Kirk, we had Alex, but our reality is we're back to having nobody. We need to get one. Again, I'm not advocating for a reach, but we've got to take the bat off our shoulders.

skinsfaninok
01-18-2019, 02:07 PM
But keep in mind you can't just assume the stars will align next year, or the year after, for us to be in position to select one then. As we sit here now, Tua and Justin Herbert will come out, plus a couple others, and figure to go high. But what if we go 8-8 in 2019 and we're picking 16th in 2020? Or what if Tua has a bad year and we question whether he's worth a 1st rounder? What if Justin Herbert gets hurt like McKenzie Milton level hurt?

Can't count on it. If a QB you think has franchise chops is there at 15, this franchise must take him. They're hard to come by and you can't count on it.

If you don't think Haskins, Lock, Murray or Jones are worth a 1st rounder then that's one thing. But the reason to pass on a QB can't be 'because next year will be a better opportunity'. We can't know that.

We had Kirk, we had Alex, but our reality is we're back to having nobody. We need to get one. Again, I'm not advocating for a reach, but we've got to take the bat off our shoulders.

Sometimes you have to take big chances, at 15 I hope to draft a QB unless we sign a veteran (Foles) for a few years.

sdskinsfan2001
01-18-2019, 02:21 PM
I was watching some Lock highlights to get myself fired up. Dude has a cannon arm.

I'd be OK with Lock or Haskins at 15. Need to review Jones some more.

My preference is Finley in the 3rd (or one of the other guys ranked somewhat highly if they slip) and BPA in 1st 2 rounds.

skinsfaninok
01-18-2019, 02:35 PM
I was watching some Lock highlights to get myself fired up. Dude has a cannon arm.

I'd be OK with Lock or Haskins at 15. Need to review Jones some more.

My preference is Finley in the 3rd (or one of the other guys ranked somewhat highly if they slip) and BPA in 1st 2 rounds.

Lock is has a cannon but again so does Josh Allen, their accuracy has always been the knock. To me Grier is the best option for 15. I guess its a crapshoot tho like normal.

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