Redskins Injuries and What can be done

Who knows if it is one factor or numerous factors. Obviously some injuries are unavoidable, but when you are constantly among the league leaders in lost game injuries for an extended period of time it is more than just coincidence.

A lot of guys hate stretching, but not being properly stretched and warmed-up before practice or games can lead to increased injuries. It is a lot easier to get injured if you are fatigued, increased injuries could be a conditioning issue, or not getting players rest when needed. It could be a result of too much or too little contact in practice. Also it could boil down to not managing small injuries properly and letting them turn into big ones. Last but not least the team could be composed of too many players that have a history of being constantly injured.

I just wonder what are the Redskins doing different than the teams that are on the healthy end of the spectrum?

I have thought this myself. I think this could explain some of the soft tissue stuff. It definitely can't explain Alex's leg or Guice's ACL. Alex was a freak accident and Guice's knee was already weak from being hyperextended while in college.

But conditioning and flexibility can help stave off injury with soft tissue stuff. I can't say for sure the Redskins are lacking in this area but we tear pecs, hurt hamstrings, hurt obliques, hurt calfs, all that kind of stuff, we seem to have that market cornered. I do question whether there is too much focus at Redskins Park on brute strength and not enough on flexibility.

Team doctors don’t perform surgery and Guice and Smith had different doctors




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Yeah, like I said in my original post I don't know the health care plans of teams, individuals...so like most, they go to their own doctors who then diagnose, treat, operate and handle recovery.

So the team isn't involved in any of that? So when we hear stuff from directly from Quinton Dunbar saying, "they don't know what it is" in regards to his nerve, hamstring, groin, knee...the multiple guesses of what injury was going on with him...im trying to identify the point of reference...is that his personal doctor or the teams doctors? or both?

I saw something yesterday, trying to dig it up, but it basically said it was just recently in the last few years where the Skins were one of the least injured teams in the league. These last 2 years have been bad but trying to draw any direct correlations is probably pointless.

In the case of Alex's compound fracture, no that's not strange to come down with an infection. When the bone punctures the skin you introduce the possibility the bone is exposed to bacteria on the surface of the skin, so the risk of infection is far greater than if the bone hadn't punctured the skin.

As for Guice, an infection post surgery for an ACL can happen but it's something the patient, the hospital, and the physician have control over. The team has no control over it. Following surgery the patient has to follow the physician's instructions with regards to keeping the wound cleaned and dressed properly. If Guice was non-compliant with those instructions (we have no idea if he was) then it increases the risk of infection. As for the hospital, nurses, and physicians, hospital-acquired infections are a serious problem. Guice could have acquired the infection while he was in the care of the hospital. It happens, and Medicare will ding the hospital when it happens, providing less reimbursement for the covered patient in question. But it still should not happen often.

Either way, neither Smith's nor Guice's infections are at all within the team's control. Smith's occurred either while he was lying on the field with the leg, or while he was in the hospital. Guice's occurred either while he was in the hospital or while he was at home recovering, prior to his rehab beginning. Neither occurred under the team's watch.

thanks, I knew this topic would kinda be in your wheelhouse.

.....just to add ,infections can come from a multitude of places but most come from the Hospital itself.

That's true, unfortunately..

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/2017-adjusted-games-lost

When we looked at AGL for head coaches last year, Jay Gruden was only surpassed by Mike McCoy's San Diego teams. After Washington finished last in AGL in 2017, we can say that Gruden has had the most injured teams of any coach since 2002. This 2017 total does not even include anything for safety Su'a Cravens, who shocked everyone when he decided to retire a week before the regular season. He was placed on an exempt list and missed the entire season after getting treated for post-concussion syndrome. Middle linebacker Mason Foster (11.3 AGL) and first-round rookie Jonathan Allen (11.0 AGL) were Washington's two biggest losses by AGL. The skill positions also lost tight end Jordan Reed (8.3 AGL), running backs Rob Kelley (8.6 AGL) and Chris Thompson (6.1 AGL), and wide receiver Terrelle Pryor (7.1 AGL) for extended periods of time. As we'll see next week in the unit breakdowns, the depth of injuries along the offensive line really pushed Washington over the top here. Washington had a league-high 10 players incur at least 6.0 AGL.

Another problem area could also be technique. I remember watching RG3 and thinking he was the opposite of someone trying to protect themselves when contact was coming, almost like he was contorting himself to increase his risk of injury from a collision. Watching him play it was no shock that he had the injury history that he did.

I have thought this myself. I think this could explain some of the soft tissue stuff. It definitely can't explain Alex's leg or Guice's ACL. Alex was a freak accident and Guice's knee was already weak from being hyperextended while in college.

But conditioning and flexibility can help stave off injury with soft tissue stuff. I can't say for sure the Redskins are lacking in this area but we tear pecs, hurt hamstrings, hurt obliques, hurt calfs, all that kind of stuff, we seem to have that market cornered. I do question whether there is too much focus at Redskins Park on brute strength and not enough on flexibility.

If that is the focus then a likely cause is dehydration the inability for muscle to retain water in the first place but also dehydration is the leading factor in sports related injuries. Regardless that goes back to conditioning.

I'm also going to guess Smith and Guice weren't even in the same hospital.

Mccoy and Smith were and Colt had a successful surgery.

Mccoy and Smith were and Colt had a successful surgery.

Of course Colt's bone did not pierce the skin when he broke his leg, so the bone was never exposed to the outside air. He had about the same risk of infection as you would if you got your appendix taken out.

Alex's risk was much much higher. I don't blame the hospital one bit for Alex's infection - it would not be considered a 'hospital acquired' infection. He got that shit basically the moment his bone poked through.