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BigHairedAristocrat 12-31-2018, 12:36 PM All Snyder had to do was look at his stadium full of Eagles fans, look at an offense that had under 100 yards, a defense that could not stop basic dump off passes and that should tell him what to do.
So yesterdays game should have told Snyder to Fire everyone.... Then what?
It’s easy to say a house should be torn down - the hard part is figuring out how to rebuild, especially when very few people will want to come and help you
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BigHairedAristocrat 12-31-2018, 12:38 PM Double post
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Skinsfanatic 12-31-2018, 12:41 PM So yesterdays game should have told Snyder to Fire everyone.... Then what?
It’s easy to say a house should be torn down - the hard part is figuring out how to rebuild, especially when very few people will want to come and help you
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Hire a GM. Let the GM work with the owner to hire a coach. Let the GM/Coach work together to hire a staff. Let the GM/Coach/Staff work together to build the roster.
BaltimoreSkins 12-31-2018, 12:52 PM All Snyder had to do was look at his stadium full of Eagles fans, look at an offense that had under 100 yards, a defense that could not stop basic dump off passes and that should tell him what to do.
Read in a WaPo article that I posted in another thread that those close to Snyder are saying privately that he is not fully grasping the extent of the fans discontent. That I and of itself does not bode well.
KI Skins Fan 12-31-2018, 01:17 PM 7 questions
https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-face-7-major-questions-heading-offseason
From the article:
"4. Pay or Go?
Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder headline the Redskins players that face free agency this offseason. Neither had stellar campaigns in 2018, but both have shown plenty of potential throughout four seasons in Washington."
The part I bolded is something that must come to an end at Redskins Park, among the media that follow the Skins, and among us fans. The very idea that a player is still showing "potential" after four years on the roster is rubbish. We desperately need to find a sense of urgency from the top down at Redskins Park.
It can never be proven, but I believe that if Jack Kent Cooke still owned this franchise that Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden would be long gone from here. Cooke didn't try to tell the GM or HC how to run the team. Nevertheless, he demanded results from them or they would be fired PDQ. Cooke wanted to fire Joe Gibbs in his first year as HC when the team lost its first five games while trying to run the "Air Coryell" system with which Joe was familiar. Bobby Beathard had to fight to keep Joe Gibbs. But Gibbs had to win to stay and, he realized, that he had to change to win. So, five games in as HC, Gibbs looked at his personnel to see how he might turn things around. That is when "The Hogs" were born and John Riggins, "The Diesel", and his power running became the new focus of the offense. Then the team went 8-3 the rest of the way. OK?
Now, when has Jay Gruden ever changed one fucking thing about his sacred system? Never! Worse than that, he took on the play-calling duties himself, something at which he is entirely predictable, unimaginative, and at which he failed miserably, IMO. He was brought in to win enough to go to the playoffs and compete for championships. He hasn't done that. Why, then should he stay as HC? He shouldn't. He should't. And neither should Bruce Allen.
I think that Dan Snyder has become complacent. Perhaps he's a kinder, gentler version of his old self. Here how I imagine the "new" Dan Snyder's conversations with Jay And Bruce.
Dan: "What's that you guys are telling me? You had a lot of injuries? That's true. I don't know how you poor victims can even field a team, much less win games with such bad luck. You say you haven't been able to find a decent Left Guard for five years? My, they must be very hard to find. Well, keep trying, guys. You say you want to re-sign Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder? Well, if they have the kind of potential you say they do, then I encourage you to re-signed.
Here's how I imagine such a meeting would go with the "old" Dan Snyder:
Dan: "Hey, fuck you two with all your whining and excuse-making! I hired you to build a winning football organization. You both failed. So, you're both fired!"
I think I liked the "old" Dan Snyder better.
KI Skins Fan 12-31-2018, 01:21 PM So yesterdays game should have told Snyder to Fire everyone.... Then what?
It’s easy to say a house should be torn down - the hard part is figuring out how to rebuild, especially when very few people will want to come and help you
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He cannot be that faint-hearted and hope to build a team. Time for Dan to say "Fuck it!", fire everyone, and then consult with the football minds he respects most to help him move forward.
What is going on now would not be acceptable to a determined CEO.
From the article:
"4. Pay or Go?
Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder headline the Redskins players that face free agency this offseason. Neither had stellar campaigns in 2018, but both have shown plenty of potential throughout four seasons in Washington."
The part I bolded is something that must come to an end at Redskins Park, among the media that follow the Skins, and among us fans. The very idea that a player is still showing "potential" after four years on the roster is rubbish. We desperately need to find a sense of urgency from the top down at Redskins Park.
It can never be proven, but I believe that if Jack Kent Cooke still owned this franchise that Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden would be long gone from here. Cooke didn't try to tell the GM or HC how to run the team. Nevertheless, he demanded results from them or they would be fired PDQ. Cooke wanted to fire Joe Gibbs in his first year as HC when the team lost its first five games while trying to run the "Air Coryell" system with which Joe was familiar. Bobby Beathard had to fight to keep Joe Gibbs. But Gibbs had to win to stay and, he realized, that he had to change to win. So, five games in as HC, Gibbs looked at his personnel to see how he might turn things around. That is when "The Hogs" were born and John Riggins, "The Diesel", and his power running became the new focus of the offense. Then the team went 8-3 the rest of the way. OK?
Now, when has Jay Gruden ever changed one fucking thing about his sacred system? Never! Worse than that, he took on the play-calling duties himself, something at which he is entirely predictable, unimaginative, and at which he failed miserably, IMO. He was brought in to win enough to go to the playoffs and compete for championships. He hasn't done that. Why, then should he stay as HC? He shouldn't. He should't. And neither should Bruce Allen.
I think that Dan Snyder has become complacent. Perhaps he's a kinder, gentler version of his old self. Here how I imagine the "new" Dan Snyder's conversations with Jay And Bruce.
Dan: "What's that you guys are telling me? You had a lot of injuries? That's true. I don't know how you poor victims can even field a team, much less win games with such bad luck. You say you haven't been able to find a decent Left Guard for five years? My, they must be very hard to find. Well, keep trying, guys. You want to re-sign Preston Smith and Jamison Crowder? Well, if they have the kind of potential you say they do, then I encourage you to re-signed.
Here how I imagine such a meeting would go with the "old" Dan Snyder:
Hey. fuck you two with all your whining and excuse-making! I hired you to build a winning football organization. You both failed. So, you're both fired!
I think I liked the "old" Dan Snyder better.
The "old" Dan Snyder is why nobody wants to work with the "new" one.
Finley is speculating Gibbs is in town because Dan doesn't know what to do and is asking him for advice.
He said usually when Gibbs or somebody like that is in town there is some sort of media promotion.
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I floated that same idea recently, that Snyder needs to consult with someone he trusts, someone like Gibbs
rocnrik 12-31-2018, 01:27 PM Let’s play owner..Allen is moved out of the position or fired... who would you hire as a GM to run this team? (No coaches are let go before the new GM is hired and let him decide)
I'd promote Schaffer to GM
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