BaltimoreSkins
12-01-2018, 12:34 PM
Under a ZTP, would pushing a yelling, angry spouse away from a player's face be treated the same as the knockout punch of Ray Rice?
I think the best thing to do is look at the MLB and MLBPA agreement. That has to be the best policy for domestic violence in all of professional sports.
BaltimoreSkins
12-01-2018, 12:38 PM
BTW. This isn't just a shove a woman thing. This is a shove ANYONE thing. We praise a lifetime of training football players to hit ,hit, hit...yet we're appalled when they do it off the field. We are frankly hypocrites. BTW, what about Fights with other guys? The real issue is Anger and harming others off the field. And this showboating and taunting generally reflects an arrogant in you face attitude along these same lines. It is possible to play football and stay cool. Look at Art Monk. However, he is not the norm. Violence begets violence. Football is a violent sport of striking those in conflict with you. I am not surprised at all.
Are you saying they have difficulty differentiating between their job and public life? Not sure I agree.
httr198020
12-01-2018, 12:40 PM
:doh:
Come on man, really? Am I lying? She jumped in his face. He pushed her out of his face. She swung on him. He defended himself. Why is she not being charged with a crime?
httr198020
12-01-2018, 12:44 PM
I’m glad misogyny and advocating hitting women (who didn’t even put hands on him first) is alive and well on this board. Geez I miss the days of old.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Somebody doesn't have to hit you first to warrant being hit. Jumping in somebody's face puts that person at risk. I don't see anything this guy did wrong. She jumped in his face. He pushed her. She hit him and things got a little out of control.
skinsnut
12-01-2018, 12:49 PM
Are you saying they have difficulty differentiating between their job and public life? Not sure I agree.
Not at all. But is you have been trained, as a child to hit, hit, hit. And do so through teenage years, etc. You are more likely to hit than if you were trained to hug, hug, hug.
Most careers are not trained since a child. Particularly encouraging physical hitting as a positive attribute.
Cops and military may also exhibit similar issues as they too are typically from anhitting is good mentality as a child or adolencent. Although not a regularly as daily hitting training.
Don't kill me on that. I am just saying if you train to hit, hit, hit, you are probably more likely to hit in anger or under pressure. We do what we are trained to do.
Buffalo Bob
12-01-2018, 12:51 PM
Somebody doesn't have to hit you first to warrant being hit. Jumping in somebody's face puts that person at risk. I don't see anything this guy did wrong. She jumped in his face. He pushed her. She hit him and things got a little out of control.
You can't be serious. He is a strong well condition man, she is a teenage girl. She posed no threat. A real man turns and walks away.
skinsnut
12-01-2018, 01:00 PM
Somebody doesn't have to hit you first to warrant being hit.
This is where you are wrong.
Not only you should never strike someone if being provoked. You should not even strike someone after merely being shoved. Your view on this is exactly why his career is now in jeopardy. Have you ever heard if someone strikes you on the left cheek, turn an offer them the other cheek too?
Self defense comes into play after multiple strikes or a life threatening situation. This argument or words justify physical stiking is the core attitude problem that causes escalation an violence in our macho testosterone attack world.
Hitting someone in anger is almost always wrong. Period. Except on a football field where it is considered awesome
Buffalo Bob
12-01-2018, 01:14 PM
For the record I practiced what I preached about turning and walking away. I have been punched in the face numerous times by women, my ex wife even managed to bloody my nose once. Her logic was since I was way bigger and an ex boxer she could not hurt me. I usually just laughed at her. When I was younger I had a habit of escalating domestic issues with poor choices of words.
I wasn't the guy who would come home with flowers when I was in the dog house. Right before I left home at 17 my mother hit me across the back with one of those wooden rolling pins. Hurt like hell, I never even thought of retaliating.
skinsnut
12-01-2018, 01:26 PM
Along the lines of off the field violence, why is it that RBs are so vilolent vs kickers and QBs? It seems certain "deliver a hit" positions seem to have a disproportionate amount of off field hitting others issues.
Guice, Hunt, Thompson backfield is going to be amazing next year.
Hunt just filmed a clip of when keeping it real goes wrong.
How can someone with so much to lose behave so stupidly? Blows my mind.
Vodka. Lots of vodka.