Alex Effect - 2019 Draft

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metalskins
12-06-2018, 05:41 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/IhPCg4BtydbAZbCZP2FTMVOamwg=/800x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/O4VNBES4ABGQ3LCTT5Y4J2JKEI.jpghttps://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/12/06/with-mark-sanchez-under-center-redskins-quarterback-carousel-is-spinning-again/?utm_term=.3a594c5a9342



That makes my head hurt.

mredskins
12-06-2018, 05:44 PM
That makes my head hurt.

There is a lot of teams like that. A handful of teams have/had a stalwart at qb for a decade. The graphic is misleading.

Irrefutable
12-06-2018, 05:48 PM
Sadly we are heading back to the Beck/ Grossman years. I don’t see Alex coming back.

SIAP....is there any way Smith goes on the PUP list and his salary is NOT counted? Shazier reconstructed his contract to help Pittsburgh.... granted it was a much smaller contract

metalskins
12-06-2018, 05:56 PM
There is a lot of teams like that. A handful of teams have/had a stalwart at qb for a decade. The graphic is misleading.

I will say, in context, the chart is dating back to 1999, so 20 years, plus, some of those quarterbacks, like Beck, only played in a few games for one season. Hardly worth mentioning. Still, if you take the quarterbacks who had significant amounts of playing time, you look at:

Brad Johnson
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
RGIII
Kirk Cousins
Alex Smith

I'm thinking more of those who were meant to be the starters, not necessarily those who signed on for a handful of games or were backups playing because of injury. You then see 8 quarterbacks in about a 20 year span.

I mean, if we go back to the pre Snyder years, you still have quite a few quarterbacks just within the 90's: Mark Rypien, Cary Conklin, John Friesz, Health Shuler, Gus Ferrotte, Tim Green, Brad Johnson. I might have missed someone in there. But, the point is, the Redskins haven't really had a franchise quarterback in forever. Heck, there could be an argument that Joe Theismann was never a true franchise QB, but I have always felt he was the last QB I could consider a franchise QB.

jamf
12-06-2018, 09:04 PM
I will say, in context, the chart is dating back to 1999, so 20 years, plus, some of those quarterbacks, like Beck, only played in a few games for one season. Hardly worth mentioning. Still, if you take the quarterbacks who had significant amounts of playing time, you look at:

Brad Johnson
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
RGIII
Kirk Cousins
Alex Smith

I'm thinking more of those who were meant to be the starters, not necessarily those who signed on for a handful of games or were backups playing because of injury. You then see 8 quarterbacks in about a 20 year span.

I mean, if we go back to the pre Snyder years, you still have quite a few quarterbacks just within the 90's: Mark Rypien, Cary Conklin, John Friesz, Health Shuler, Gus Ferrotte, Tim Green, Brad Johnson. I might have missed someone in there. But, the point is, the Redskins haven't really had a franchise quarterback in forever. Heck, there could be an argument that Joe Theismann was never a true franchise QB, but I have always felt he was the last QB I could consider a franchise QB.

All those QBs not worth mentioning are the result poor decision making by the team

Let me know if you see a trend:

00-01: Sign Vet QB for playoff run (George, Tony Banks)
02-04: Rebuild with young QB and Vet Journeyman( Ramsey and Hasselbeck)
04-06: Sign Vet QB for playoff run (Brunell)
07-10: Rebuild with Young QB and Vet Journeyman (Campbell and Brunell/Collins)
10-11: Sign Vet QB for playoff run, Andy Reid has a guy... (McNabb)
11-12: Rebuilding with rookies doesn't work, lets get another Vet (Grossman)
12-18: Signing Vets didn't work, Lets trade 3 1st round picks for RG3!
18-Current: Well shit, lets sign a Vet QB to get us into the playoffs, Andy Reid has a guy!

Overpay for an aging vet, rebuild with a young guy, overpay for a vet, rebuild.... The cycle never ends if you are a Redskins fan.

CRedskinsRule
12-06-2018, 09:26 PM
All those QBs not worth mentioning are the result poor decision making by the team

Let me know if you see a trend:

00-01: Sign Vet QB for playoff run (George, Tony Banks)
02-04: Rebuild with young QB and Vet Journeyman( Ramsey and Hasselbeck)
04-06: Sign Vet QB for playoff run (Brunell)
07-10: Rebuild with Young QB and Vet Journeyman (Campbell and Brunell/Collins)
10-11: Sign Vet QB for playoff run, Andy Reid has a guy... (McNabb)
11-12: Rebuilding with rookies doesn't work, lets get another Vet (Grossman)
12-18: Signing Vets didn't work, Lets trade 3 1st round picks for RG3!
18-Current: Well shit, lets sign a Vet QB to get us into the playoffs, Andy Reid has a guy!

Overpay for an aging vet, rebuild with a young guy, overpay for a vet, rebuild.... The cycle never ends if you are a Redskins fan.Unless a team "gets their guy" i am pretty sure that a lot of teams follow that pattern.

BaltimoreSkins
12-06-2018, 11:41 PM
My biggest QB fear is that the AS contract will make it tough/impossible to sign a serviceable veteran so we will need to draft a QB whether we want to or not. I frankly do not see a starter ready QB in the draft therefore we will rush the guy or overspend a first rounder on third round talent. Repeat in 2020.

skinsfaninok
12-07-2018, 09:37 AM
My biggest QB fear is that the AS contract will make it tough/impossible to sign a serviceable veteran so we will need to draft a QB whether we want to or not. I frankly do not see a starter ready QB in the draft therefore we will rush the guy or overspend a first rounder on third round talent. Repeat in 2020.

The only other option that I would not mind is trading for Jacoby Brisett, he's a starter in the NFL, and Luck is back so they don't need him.

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