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SFREDSKIN
11-12-2018, 03:26 PM
Norman was targeted 3 times yesterday.

0 Catches

1INT.

And some grabbing that he got away with. let's see what he does against Hopkins.

FrenchSkin
11-12-2018, 03:41 PM
A couple of thoughts:

1. I think the game plan on defense was a good one and worked. Obviously, they gave up all underneath and played double deep in the back. Kept everything in front of them. It could have gone south if the Bucs didn't do stupid stuff, but the Bucs have been doing stupid stuff all year (or since game 3). So it's a good scheme.

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Exactly!

I really don't get why people complain about the yards given up, someone even said it was an "iffy performance" by the D...
With a starting CB out, 2 really unsure rookies rotating opposite Norman, and facing the top passing offense in the league, I say play "bend but don't break" D + don't get beat over the top + create turnovers is a smart way to game plan!

I give a lot of credit to Manusky for this game (game plan + getting over an awful outing + obviously asking for turnovers).

skinsfaninok
11-12-2018, 03:45 PM
And some grabbing that he got away with. let's see what he does against Hopkins.

Not many guys can shut down DHOP. Going to need Q back this week

SFREDSKIN
11-12-2018, 03:46 PM
Exactly!

I really don't get why people complain about the yards given up, someone even said it was an "iffy performance" by the D...
With a starting CB out, 2 really unsure rookies rotating opposite Norman, and facing the top passing offense in the league, I say play "bend but don't break" D + don't get beat over the top + create turnovers is a smart way to game plan!

I give a lot of credit to Manusky for this game (game plan + getting over an awful outing + obviously asking for turnovers).

I said iffy performance, were you not worried during the game? Tampa Bay and their mistakes helped somewhat, I know this D can dominate even with the backup CB's. I like Strohman and Johnson with more playing the better they will get.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-12-2018, 03:47 PM
Don't get me mixed in with being pissed off after a win, but without turnovers (and turnovers come in bunches) we don't win. You can't really count on turnovers every game to win. I mean with one less turnover, this game might have been extremely different.

Run defense played pretty well overall, but our zone couldn't have been designed to just let them march up and down the field at will.

Again, GREAT win, love it, but I can't pretend the pass defense played great. Bucs have one hell of a passing game and Fitz just slings that shit around, but it just seemed like no one was even in the vicinity of an open receiver half the time.

FrenchSkin
11-12-2018, 03:51 PM
And some grabbing that he got away with. let's see what he does against Hopkins.

Listen, if he star covers Hopkins he's going to give away some catches... like everybody in the league.
Nobody can completely shut down that guy. But Norman is having a solid season, kept Mike Evans in check, played well against Julio Jones (minus the ugly PI).

He's not crazy fast so sometimes he'll get beat, but since the Saints game he's been playing well, not sure I get all the skepticism about him.

TheMalcolmConnection
11-12-2018, 03:51 PM
I REALLLLY wish the Texans didn't get Thomas, otherwise I'd say have Norman just check Hopkins the whole game and we'd be good defensively. This one reminds me a lot of the Cardinals game without David Johnson. One REALLY elite WR and one pretty good one. My biggest concern is turnovers on offense.

Hope the new linemen eat their Wheaties that day because they're gonna' have to play out of the minds to keep Smith upright from Watt. I was more than pleasantly surprised how the new guys looked, so I have some hope.

FrenchSkin
11-12-2018, 04:01 PM
I said iffy performance, were you not worried during the game? Tampa Bay and their mistakes helped somewhat, I know this D can dominate even with the backup CB's. I like Strohman and Johnson with more playing the better they will get.

I was worried because our offense struggled to move the ball and kept giving the ball back to the Bucs early in the game.

But 3 points, INT, PUNT, Missed FG, FG, Missed FG, INT, FUM, FUM, is not what I would call an iffy performance.

They were willing to give up the yards they gave up in order to not give up the points they didn't give up.

FrenchSkin
11-12-2018, 04:04 PM
Let me put it this way: I thought it was highly inaccurate to put this week performance on the same level as the horrible outing against the Falcons.

htownskinfan
11-12-2018, 04:26 PM
Don't get me mixed in with being pissed off after a win, but without turnovers (and turnovers come in bunches) we don't win. You can't really count on turnovers every game to win. I mean with one less turnover, this game might have been extremely different.

Run defense played pretty well overall, but our zone couldn't have been designed to just let them march up and down the field at will.

Again, GREAT win, love it, but I can't pretend the pass defense played great. Bucs have one hell of a passing game and Fitz just slings that shit around, but it just seemed like no one was even in the vicinity of an open receiver half the time.

Nobody here is pissed off about a win! But apparently on this site being a realist and pointing out things that can be better makes you unhappy and pissed about a win.BUT,I couldnt agree more with everything else you said:biggthump
Of course being 6-3 and in first place is great,we are all thankful for that,it's a lot better than being the Giants thats for sure,but that doesnt mean there isnt any room for constructive criticism

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