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Kope
10-31-2018, 12:20 PM
Smith can do it. He did so last year - this cannot be argued, it is a fact. Better than average NFL QB play is an extremely intricate and difficult process, but it is a process. The beauty of the Smith is he isn't shit canning games as the process happens. We are still in a good position despite being out of synch passing the ball. That is a huge positive as far as I am concerned. I really do have faith that Gruden and Smith will get the passing offense sorted.

This on top of the fact that Jon Allen, Swearinger and the defense were pissed after the giants game. Skins are only going to get better.

skinsfaninok
10-31-2018, 12:38 PM
Smith can do it. He did so last year - this cannot be argued, it is a fact. Better than average NFL QB play is an extremely intricate and difficult process, but it is a process. The beauty of the Smith is he isn't shit canning games as the process happens. We are still in a good position despite being out of synch passing the ball. That is a huge positive as far as I am concerned. I really do have faith that Gruden and Smith will get the passing offense sorted.

This on top of the fact that Jon Allen, Swearinger and the defense were pissed after the giants game. Skins are only going to get better.

Josh Norman was on the Deion podcast and when he was asked about Alex his first response was "Alex is smart, he doesn't put the defense in bad situations"

And if u think about it, he's right. When has Alex made that "O shit" mistake this season? He isn't a sexy QB but he's a winner and his guys love him

BaltimoreSkins
10-31-2018, 01:02 PM
Josh Norman was on the Deion podcast and when he was asked about Alex his first response was "Alex is smart, he doesn't put the defense in bad situations"

And if u think about it, he's right. When has Alex made that "O shit" mistake this season? He isn't a sexy QB but he's a winner and his guys love him

Dallas game when he stopped the clock

JoeRedskin
10-31-2018, 01:12 PM
And just because we’re 5-2 doesn’t mean we don’t have a problem at QB. Eventually we’re going to need to air it out to win a shoot out, and Smith will wilt as seen in the Colts game, the Saints game, and almost happened in other games. This weekend will be a test not only of our defense, but Smith if we get into a shootout with Matt Ryan, and you can BET Smith won’t be able to keep up.

Sometimes you need to strike quickly to take the momentum from the other team, sometimes the ground game is down and you need to shoulder the load, sometimes you need to send the ball more than 5 yards. SMITH CANT DO IT. He puts people to sleep and scares no one. If we didn’t have AP we’d be FUCKED

... and if we didn't have two all-pro linemen, we'd be fucked ... or if we didn't have a run stopping defense we be fucked ... or if we had a QB who turned the ball over at inopportune times, we be fucked. HOWEVER we do have AP, a solid line, a run stopping defense, and a QB who is careful with the ball. So to date, we are not fucked; we are 5-2.

You point to the Colts and Saints game. Sure, Smith did not perform well; he didn't put the team on his shoulders and light it up. In both games, however, the team - and I mean the whole team - came out flat. Expecting a QB with 2 and 4 games under his belt in the system to make up for a team-wide collapse is pretty unrealistic. Even in the best of circumstances, if the lineman aren't blocking and the defense is getting run up and down the field, very, very few QB's can pull that sh** from the fire. At some point this season, Smith may be able to give them a fighting chance, but right now? I agree he is not there yet.

As Kope said, Smith can throw it deep and did so last year. Clearly, the passing game needs to improve but I fail to see evidence that it cannot do so as the season progresses. In fact, it seems to me that, each game, Smith is pressing his comfort level a little further with a couple more deep shots to Richardson and contested passes to Doctson than the last game - while at the same time not turning the ball over.

If we are still having this conversation at the end of the year, if Smith shows no advancement despite playing a full season in the system with the same receivers, than, yes, I will be more receptive to the argument. However, RIGHT NOW, Smith is protecting the ball and helping the offense do just enough to win games. Five games out of seven in fact.

Smith has been a successful, winning QB for many years. He will never be flashy or put up gaudy statistics.

So far, all he does is win.
6-2

JoeRedskin
10-31-2018, 01:14 PM
Dallas game when he stopped the clock

Yup. I agree - that's one. In the past six years, I would suggest that our "Oh shit" QB count was much, much higher by game seven.

CRedskinsRule
10-31-2018, 01:51 PM
And just because we’re 5-2 doesn’t mean we don’t have a problem at QB. Eventually we’re going to need to air it out to win a shoot out, and Smith will wilt as seen in the Colts game, the Saints game, and almost happened in other games. This weekend will be a test not only of our defense, but Smith if we get into a shootout with Matt Ryan, and you can BET Smith won’t be able to keep up.

Sometimes you need to strike quickly to take the momentum from the other team, sometimes the ground game is down and you need to shoulder the load, sometimes you need to send the ball more than 5 yards. SMITH CANT DO IT. He puts people to sleep and scares no one. If we didn’t have AP we’d be FUCKED


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If we didn't have AP we likely would have had Guice. The team clearly recognized the need for a playmaker RB with AS at QB, that's no shock. The shock was that we were able to get one of the best. I won't complain that they saw a need, went out, and grabbed the guy that is now a major cog.

Our game plan (as evidenced by the fact that in all 5 wins we get the lead, hold the lead and win) is always to, as you say, to strike first and keep the other team from going crazy. So far that strategy has worked all but 2 times.

The Falcons are a 3-4 team, they can challenge, but they put up 23 points on the Giants, they aren't the Saints. Sure they can beat us, we aren't the Saints or the Rams either. But our strategy isn't to be either of those teams because our FO/Coach understands the talent and the team they have built, and how to win with it.

5superbowls3wins
10-31-2018, 06:35 PM
Fair enough. Smith needs time to learn the system, get comfortable and establish rhythm with the WRs. I won’t say anything else and reserve further judgement until the end of the season.


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htownskinfan
11-01-2018, 05:39 PM
Dallas game when he stopped the clock

Boom! #micdrop

htownskinfan
11-01-2018, 05:43 PM
Smith can do it. He did so last year - this cannot be argued, it is a fact. Better than average NFL QB play is an extremely intricate and difficult process, but it is a process. The beauty of the Smith is he isn't shit canning games as the process happens. We are still in a good position despite being out of synch passing the ball. That is a huge positive as far as I am concerned. I really do have faith that Gruden and Smith will get the passing offense sorted.

This on top of the fact that Jon Allen, Swearinger and the defense were pissed after the giants game. Skins are only going to get better.

Yeah the fact is he did it LAST YEAR! Anyone with eyes can see Smith is not playing like he did last year,just hope somehow he turns it around

DYoungJelly
11-01-2018, 07:43 PM
Just listened to Cooley's podcast.

PFF gave Ionnidas a grade in the 50s. A terrible performance.

Cooley mentioned the grade and really questioned its legitimacy.

Said hands down it was an A performance.

This is the issue I have with touting PFF as the gospel.

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