Chico23231
10-10-2018, 01:08 PM
Do you think there's enough talent to win 10 games? I do. Definitely enough talent here to challenge for the division.
Honestly...10 wins, I don't think we do.
To challenge for the division, its a different question but Peterson/Schwartz are the best coaches and they have more talent on the roster. I don't think we can.
We need things to go our way in order to challenge. We will see.
irish
10-10-2018, 01:27 PM
Williams is more than just a nice player. He's an elite LT.
When he isn't hurt which is often. Even saying he's elite, who else do the Skins have that is elite? Nobody.
skinsfaninok
10-10-2018, 01:27 PM
Williams is more than just a nice player. He's an elite LT.
Williams is consistently a top 5 LT , That is not a Nice player that is a HOF type lineman. Kerrigan is a "nice" type of player
skinsfaninok
10-10-2018, 01:30 PM
When he isn't hurt which is often. Even saying he's elite, who else do the Skins have that is elite? Nobody.
I agree , nobody else is Elite on this team but we have a good roster. Better than it has been, especially on D. Now the WRs are very AVG as is our Pass rushers (Kerrigan and Smith).
I am sticking with my 9-7 prediction.
When he isn't hurt which is often. Even saying he's elite, who else do the Skins have that is elite? Nobody.
When has his missed major time? Even on one knee he played great last year. I get your point about the team lacking A+ type of players but Williams isn’t a good example to point to
irish
10-10-2018, 02:42 PM
When has his missed major time? Even on one knee he played great last year. I get your point about the team lacking A+ type of players but Williams isn’t a good example to point to
He doesn't miss major time but he's never 100%. I'll give you Williams but when an OT is your only A+ player then your team is severely lacking talent.
EARTHQUAKE2689
10-10-2018, 02:49 PM
Totally agree. Talent is still an issue with this team. Sure the roster has some talent but this team has no bonafide superstars. People might say Williams or Kerrigan and they are nice players but nobody would line up to get those guys. Until the talent gets better this team is stuck in the middle.
I am willing to bet everything you own that if we released or offered to trade Trent William's at 5pm today he'd be on another team by 6:30
irish
10-10-2018, 03:14 PM
I am willing to bet everything you own that if we released or offered to trade Trent William's at 5pm today he'd be on another team by 6:30
Agree but I bet the Skins wouldn't get nearly what you think they'd get for him. My point is that if Williams is the team's only A+ player then this team has a talent problem that no amount of coaching will fix.
Schneed10
10-10-2018, 03:33 PM
Lack of star power is definitely an issue on this team. There's no guy capable of taking over and dominating. No Aaron Donald, no JJ Watt, no Khalil Mack, no Jalen Ramsey, no Antonio Brown, no Gronk, etc.
You can still be a 10-6 team without a star, though. We do have enough talent to be that good. I point more towards coaching as the issue, rather than lack of talent.
And I point towards the front office for the failing in the coaching department, too. The front office is supposed to set the culture and find the coach. Allen and Gruden both need to go.
irish
10-10-2018, 03:57 PM
Lack of star power is definitely an issue on this team. There's no guy capable of taking over and dominating. No Aaron Donald, no JJ Watt, no Khalil Mack, no Jalen Ramsey, no Antonio Brown, no Gronk, etc.
You can still be a 10-6 team without a star, though. We do have enough talent to be that good. I point more towards coaching as the issue, rather than lack of talent.
And I point towards the front office for the failing in the coaching department, too. The front office is supposed to set the culture and find the coach. Allen and Gruden both need to go.
While I have been making the point for not enough talent, I agree with you about coaching as well. It seems to me that the Skins coaches never seem to make anyone outplay their contract. Other teams seems to take nobodys and make them into good players while the Skins struggle to get what talent the players have out of them. Gruden will be gone at the end of the season and it will be start over and rebuild. The wheels keep on spinning.