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Giantone
10-02-2018, 03:46 PM
We've already had this discussion Cred. I agree there should be term limits in politics.
We all agreed!

Giantone
10-02-2018, 03:52 PM
The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren-buffett-minimum-wage/

You just love to make this shit up don't you chico? Find a post from anyone that says a company willing to pay it's workers more is wrong???

Funny you quote Warren Buffet yet when it came to the Tax cuts and he was speaking out about how he pays less in taxes than his secretary how much screaming did you do then?I'll remind you none.


Lets just read more about what Warren thinks.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/14/warren-buffett-on-tax-reform.aspx

But don't expect the tax cuts to benefit everyday Americans
While Buffett acknowledges that Berkshire's bottom line will be helped by the new tax law, and he predicts the stock market is likely to rise, that doesn't mean he thinks the GOP's tax-reform bill is in the best interest of the American public.

Buffett recently wrote an article for Time magazine in which he explained why trickle-down economics doesn't really work.

The whole idea behind the GOP's tax-reform bill is that the massive tax cut for corporations will "trickle down" to the American public in the form of more jobs and higher wages. And the early indications are that this is somewhat true -- several high-profile companies announced bonuses for their workers or higher minimum wages in the wake of the legislation.

However, Buffett points out that historically, trickle-down economics hasn't had the promised effect. He gives the example of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans. Between the first version of the list in 1982 and today, the wealth of the top 400 has multiplied by a factor of 29, from $93 billion to $2.7 trillion. Buffett says that at the same time, "many hardworking citizens remained stuck on an economic treadmill." He added: "During this period, the tsunami of wealth didn't trickle down. It surged upward."

CRedskinsRule
10-02-2018, 04:02 PM
go back to the when is enough enough thread G1. your act is just boring, at least mooby, matty, jamf, sdskins all try to have useful discussions. you just troll the troll roll.

Giantone
10-02-2018, 04:13 PM
To any democrats/liberals in this thread, what are like the top 3-5 policies/ideals/laws/etc. that are the most important to you? I mean this seriously. I think we live in such an us vs. them/take no prisoners world that actual helpful discussions are harder and harder to have. I'd imagine we all have a lot more in common than not, just have different ideas of how to achieve them.

First like it or not I am a registered Republican.I'll take a shot

1) Healthcare for everyone . ACA you don't just dump it it,you fix what is wrong with it and you move on .
2)Social Security ,it's a flawed system but you don't fuck with it till you have a better system in place.
3) Welfare ,it's needed but again it's time to fix it .People should work for their money
4) We need to be the Big Player again Fuck Russia ,Fuck China ..this is a World economy but and American company should take care of it's American workers and if it won't, YES, the goverment should make them.
5) Our Military ,it is the best in the World ! We need to take better care of current and former Soldiers .
6) Education ,someone tell me why the first cuts made are always Education

7) Term limits ,including the SCOTUS

I'm sure with more time I can think of others things and this list is not in order of importance either ,just a random list to start.


Okay ,rip me apart!

Giantone
10-02-2018, 04:14 PM
go back to the when is enough enough thread G1. your act is just boring, at least mooby, matty, jamf, sdskins all try to have useful discussions. you just troll the troll roll.

LOL, and you and your fuck America act is getting thin to.

Chico23231
10-02-2018, 04:21 PM
You just love to make this shit up don't you chico? Find a post from anyone that says a company willing to pay it's workers more is wrong???

Funny you quote Warren Buffet yet when it came to the Tax cuts and he was speaking out about how he pays less in taxes than his secretary how much screaming did you do then?I'll remind you none.


Lets just read more about what Warren thinks.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/14/warren-buffett-on-tax-reform.aspx

But don't expect the tax cuts to benefit everyday Americans
While Buffett acknowledges that Berkshire's bottom line will be helped by the new tax law, and he predicts the stock market is likely to rise, that doesn't mean he thinks the GOP's tax-reform bill is in the best interest of the American public.

Buffett recently wrote an article for Time magazine in which he explained why trickle-down economics doesn't really work.

The whole idea behind the GOP's tax-reform bill is that the massive tax cut for corporations will "trickle down" to the American public in the form of more jobs and higher wages. And the early indications are that this is somewhat true -- several high-profile companies announced bonuses for their workers or higher minimum wages in the wake of the legislation.

However, Buffett points out that historically, trickle-down economics hasn't had the promised effect. He gives the example of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans. Between the first version of the list in 1982 and today, the wealth of the top 400 has multiplied by a factor of 29, from $93 billion to $2.7 trillion. Buffett says that at the same time, "many hardworking citizens remained stuck on an economic treadmill." He added: "During this period, the tsunami of wealth didn't trickle down. It surged upward."

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/high-demand-for-holiday-workers-this-season/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a-job-holiday-workers-in-high-demand-across-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/target-to-hire-20percent-more-workers-this-holiday-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.

Schneed10
10-02-2018, 04:37 PM
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/high-demand-for-holiday-workers-this-season/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a-job-holiday-workers-in-high-demand-across-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/target-to-hire-20percent-more-workers-this-holiday-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.

Yeah but we're borrowing at an absurd rate to make it happen, which eventually has consequences.

Trump's tax plan dropped tax rates, so parts of the public are enjoying that significant change, but the federal government has not reduced spending in concert. The deficit has grown significantly larger.

It's the same effect as a stimulus. Obama's was an injection fed by quantitative easing, ours is an injection of Chinese cash buying up more of our debt. It will eventually impact inflation rates and the strength of our currency in a negative way.

CRedskinsRule
10-02-2018, 04:46 PM
LOL, and you and your fuck America act is getting thin to.

feel free to leave, I was just about to reply to your list as a useful starting point. You can still go

CRedskinsRule
10-02-2018, 04:50 PM
Yeah but we're borrowing at an absurd rate to make it happen, which eventually has consequences.

Trump's tax plan dropped tax rates, so parts of the public are enjoying that significant change, but the federal government has not reduced spending in concert. The deficit has grown significantly larger.

It's the same effect as a stimulus. Obama's was an injection fed by quantitative easing, ours is an injection of Chinese cash buying up more of our debt. It will eventually impact inflation rates and the strength of our currency in a negative way.

I agree, and a side note on this, people may have started noticing the fed raising rates, and while individuals may feel a little of that, guess what happens when the federally borrowed money starts having to pay higher rates, it's not a good thing.

I do think the difference on the stimulus vs solid gdp growth, is a lot of the stimulus was borrowed money that doesn't increase the tax base. In sound GDP growth, tax revenues rise as a result. BUT your point is right it's not enough, and Congress needs to stop living in tax and spend environment.

Giantone
10-02-2018, 05:29 PM
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/high-demand-for-holiday-workers-this-season/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a-job-holiday-workers-in-high-demand-across-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/target-to-hire-20percent-more-workers-this-holiday-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.

That started with Obama ,don't forget that.

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