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CRedskinsRule
10-31-2018, 12:41 PM
Fuck This Guy (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/30/dont-fall-for-trumps-desperate-race-baiting-birthright-citizenship-stunt/?utm_term=.0f0305e2db26)

Where's the outrage from "normal citizens"?
If you don't want to be called a racist then you should probably speak up at some point.

There's more than enough faux outrage from the left. Recall that Harry Reid(I know it's a talking point name) once proposed ending birthright citizenship.

I won't say I know much on the topic, but I do know that Trump loves to push liberals to hypocritical positions, especially on immigration. It's why dems are pretty silent over the issue, because they all supported most of the positions - until Trump was the one suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States#Opposi tion_to_birthright_citizenship
Both Democrats and Republicans have introduced legislation aimed at narrowing the application of the Citizenship Clause. In 1993, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced legislation that would limit birthright citizenship to the children of U.S. citizens and legally resident aliens, and similar bills have been introduced by other legislators in every Congress since.[79] For example, U.S. Representative Nathan Deal, a Republican from the State of Georgia, introduced the "Citizenship Reform Act of 2005" (H.R. 698) in the 109th Congress,[80] the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007" (H.R. 1940)[81] in the 110th Congress, and the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009" (H.R. 1868)[82] in the 111th Congress. However, neither these nor any similar bill has ever been passed by Congress.

Some legislators, unsure whether such Acts of Congress would survive court challenges, have proposed that the Citizenship Clause be changed through a constitutional amendment.[83] Senate Joint Resolution 6, introduced on January 16, 2009 in the 111th Congress, proposes such an amendment;[84] however, neither this, nor any other proposed amendment, has yet been approved by Congress for ratification by the states.
In terms of racist mentality how about HRC's joke that all blacks look the same, and the raucous laughter it got?

Oh Outrage wherefore art thou.

Back2RFK
10-31-2018, 01:12 PM
What an amazing idea, paying people more helps the economy. Wonder where we’ve heard that before.

Paying people more when business are thriving is one thing forcing a business to pay higher wages usually has a negative affect.

Back2RFK
10-31-2018, 01:16 PM
There's more than enough faux outrage from the left. Recall that Harry Reid(I know it's a talking point name) once proposed ending birthright citizenship.

I won't say I know much on the topic, but I do know that Trump loves to push liberals to hypocritical positions, especially on immigration. It's why dems are pretty silent over the issue, because they all supported most of the positions - until Trump was the one suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States#Opposi tion_to_birthright_citizenship

In terms of racist mentality how about HRC's joke that all blacks look the same, and the raucous laughter it got?

Oh Outrage wherefore art thou.


The left was also for building a wall and protecting our boarder. You pick any top Democrat and I can find a clip of them wanting tougher immigration laws.

jamf
10-31-2018, 02:33 PM
There's more than enough faux outrage from the left. Recall that Harry Reid(I know it's a talking point name) once proposed ending birthright citizenship.

I won't say I know much on the topic, but I do know that Trump loves to push liberals to hypocritical positions, especially on immigration. It's why dems are pretty silent over the issue, because they all supported most of the positions - until Trump was the one suggesting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright_citizenship_in_the_United_States#Opposi tion_to_birthright_citizenship

In terms of racist mentality how about HRC's joke that all blacks look the same, and the raucous laughter it got?

Oh Outrage wherefore art thou.

it's disgusting but Conservatives have tuned out Liberals while Liberals have done the same to Conservatives.
Why not stand up to your own party instead of just going along with this bigotry?

Maybe this is more appropriate for the Enough... thread.

MTK
10-31-2018, 02:36 PM
No, it's the reverse, a growing economy helps raise all the boats. It worked with Reagan's tax cuts, and it's working now.

We've had several quarters of positive GDP growth, lower unemployment, and those pressures, not government interference are what lead to wage growth.

Please don't try to sell us on trickle down BS. A tax cut on it's own doesn't help everyone.

Just like wages alone don't raise an economy, but low wages have been a problem for a long time. When giant corporations pay garbage wages that force people to stay on assistance programs it's a lose/lose for everyone. Nothing wrong with pressuring companies to pay their employees a livable wage.

jamf
10-31-2018, 02:49 PM
The left was also for building a wall and protecting our boarder. You pick any top Democrat and I can find a clip of them wanting tougher immigration laws.

This isn't about a wall or National Security; This is just a racist dog whistle before primaries to drum up votes.


Edit: Deleted the part about morals. That was a low a blow.

CRedskinsRule
10-31-2018, 02:49 PM
A tax cut, reduced regulations, a business friendly environment all encourage businesses to make capital investments as well as increases competition for quality employees, which raises wages. We had eight years of stagnant growth, and no wage increase, we have 1 1/2 years of fiscal conservative approach and we see wage growth. You can call it BS all you want but the wage increases, and rising gdp say otherwise. (Tariffs help wages too because US employers don't compete against outside labor practices but don't tell that to the press)

Giantone
10-31-2018, 03:07 PM
A tax cut, reduced regulations, a business friendly environment all encourage businesses to make capital investments.


..............and that is where it is ending . I love the reduced regulations but hey people don't need drinking water we got 20's dollars back in our checks .;)

Chico23231
10-31-2018, 03:29 PM
I don't think there has ever been another issue like Illegal Immigration/Immigration with so many garbage narratives on both sides.

Step 1

Should we have a secure border which should keep our people and country safe? Yes

Step 2

Should we have people who want to come into this country legally through Port of Entry?

Yes

Step 3

Should we have people who have lived here illegally have some sort of pathway of citizenship? Yes

CRedskinsRule
10-31-2018, 03:47 PM
it's disgusting but Conservatives have tuned out Liberals while Liberals have done the same to Conservatives.
Why not stand up to your own party instead of just going along with this bigotry?

Maybe this is more appropriate for the Enough... thread.

I would prefer that people acknowledge what the reality on the ground is. That is that most Americans, conservative or liberal, are NOT racist. That not every misspoke word is meant to slander or demean. That political correctness is not free speech but controlled speech. And that this country is great BECAUSE of every citizens unique makeup combined with our National heritage. The being American IS worth a damn, and that we are Americans first, and our cultural heritage second. That when the song says and I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free, they are talking about every person, white black, rich poor.

There are a percentage of Americans who are racist, a smaller percentage that are hate filled racists, they make themselves known, and should be dealt with by law enforcement when they act out, but we as Americans should recognize that they ARE the small percentage of population - the bad eggs so to say.

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