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los panda 09-25-2018, 05:42 PM Cris Collinsworth? Is that you???
LOL! Now here's a guy who recognizes a CC when he sees it. We talked to him before this post and he had a great week of practice, he said he's feeling great. I think he's one of those guys who could really have a major impact on this thread.
Schneed10 09-25-2018, 05:57 PM You should look up correlation and causation.
It also seems like you didn't actually read the post.
More pressures may mean more sacks or it may not. That's what a correlation is, rather than a causation.
Again, it's about defining terms: hurries and pressures.
Another knee jerk post.
Typical.
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You're beginning to embarrass yourself.
Schneed10 09-25-2018, 05:58 PM Feels like every year we put Kerrigan under the microscope and it's just beyond silly at this point.
Here's a guy who averages 10 sacks a year, has been to 3 Pro Bowls, and probably most impressively hasn't missed a single damn game and somehow he's always the one getting singled out. I don't get it, never have, never will.
People don't understand what they're watching. Too many just follow the ball with their eyes and conclude that if the player didn't tackle the player with the ball, they were not impactful. It's a basic lack of understanding about the game of football.
And yes they deserve to be condescended for it.
KI Skins Fan 09-25-2018, 06:03 PM Feels like every year we put Kerrigan under the microscope and it's just beyond silly at this point.
Here's a guy who averages 10 sacks a year, has been to 3 Pro Bowls, and probably most impressively hasn't missed a single damn game and somehow he's always the one getting singled out. I don't get it, never have, never will.
It wasn't my intent to focus on Kerrigan. However, I think I know why there is so much focus on him. When people think that there is only one OLB who can be counted on bring a consistent pass rush, it is human nature to want more from him because they believe they can't expect to get much more from the others.
punch it in 09-25-2018, 06:15 PM People don't understand what they're watching. Too many just follow the ball with their eyes and conclude that if the player didn't tackle the player with the ball, they were not impactful. It's a basic lack of understanding about the game of football.
And yes they deserve to be condescended for it.
Do you ever read back any of your posts and throw up in your mouth a little bit like the rest of us when we read them?
punch it in 09-25-2018, 06:26 PM I've read your posts for years now and on countless occasions you come across as a know-it-all and repeatedly put people down as if everyone but you is an idiot. I seldom post and typically come to this site as a simple Redskin fan just trying to enjoy all other fan's viewpoints but your frequent arrogance ruins the experience. You've clearly been hurt somewhere in life with a resulting insecurity that motivates you to talk to others like shit in order to make yourself feel better. Sitting in front of a keyboard makes it far to easy for you to get away with your smug comments and I'm surprised more people on this site haven't called you out. Who are you anyway? What makes you an "expert" in all things football and Redskins related? Doesn't really matter as whoever you are doesn't excuse such condescending behavior. Douche.
This is great. Lol. Plenty have called him out, most ignore him, and a couple have actually enjoyed some of the random nerdy knowledge that he plagiarizes off the interweb. Douche. Hahaha. Good stuff man. You need to post more often.
BaltimoreSkins 09-25-2018, 06:56 PM Oh yeah. I am getting my popcorn and beer ready this thread has taken a fun turn.
los panda 09-25-2018, 07:13 PM I've never been more scared than I am right now.
DYoungJelly 09-25-2018, 07:15 PM You're beginning to embarrass yourself.
I don't think expressing the idea that there are different degrees, tiers, grades of "hurries" and "pressures" is embarrassing at all.
Further, I don't think expressing the idea that the crappiest "hurries" that fall into the crappiest tier may not relate to sacks even though they may show up on ESPN's stat sheet is embarrassing either.
I do think going straight to ad hominem attacks without mentioning, in any way, the argument with which you disagree is embarassing because it is a lazy rhetorical crutch.
I simply proposed in post #152 (for those reading along) that all "pressures" are not the same, and that some may not be a good indicator of a near sack, and some, on the other hand probably are, but there isn't necessarily a correlation, and definitely not a causation.
Scenario 1, Kerrigan pressures Andrew Luck on step 3 of a 5 step drop. The pressure gets there before Luck is expecting it and before the Offensive line drops to block for 5 steps. They are out of position because the pressure arrives to quickly. He has to throw the ball out of bounds BECAUSE Kerrigan gets there ahead of schedule.
Scenario 2, Kerrigan pressures Andrew Luck on step 7 of a 5 step drop. Luck has already gone through all of his reads, nobody is open, Kerrigan is closing in and nearly gets his hands on him, Luck is EXPECTING pressure because it is a 5 step drop and he has been holding the ball too long. He throws the ball out of bounds.
Those plays would show up in ESPN's stat column as pressures, but they are radically different in the likelihood of resulting in a sack.
In the first, Luck isn't expecting pressure and has an "oh crap" moment and isn't able to plan but has to react.
In the second, Kerrigan is just as close to Luck, but the internal clock is ticking and Luck knows he has to throw it away. Despite being just as close to a sack physically, in reality Kerrigan isn't close at all because Luck is prepared to end the play with as positive a result as the situation makes possible.
DYoungJelly 09-25-2018, 07:25 PM I've read your posts for years now and on countless occasions you come across as a know-it-all and repeatedly put people down as if everyone but you is an idiot. I seldom post and typically come to this site as a simple Redskin fan just trying to enjoy all other fan's viewpoints but your frequent arrogance ruins the experience. You've clearly been hurt somewhere in life with a resulting insecurity that motivates you to talk to others like shit in order to make yourself feel better. Sitting in front of a keyboard makes it far to easy for you to get away with your smug comments and I'm surprised more people on this site haven't called you out. Who are you anyway? What makes you an "expert" in all things football and Redskins related? Doesn't really matter as whoever you are doesn't excuse such condescending behavior. Douche.
Hold on just a second.
When I think of the intellectual giants of our age, and throughout history, I distinctly recall one common trait.
Without exception, the mark of a true genius is telling others, their peers, just how smart they are.
This makes sense when you think about it. If he didn't tell us how smart he was, then how would we know.
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