With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

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EARTHQUAKE2689
04-22-2018, 10:01 AM
Well, that didn't take long.

Just listened to Cooley's film breakdown.

The bottom line is he isn't Fournette. He is a less talented version of Fournette who Cooley said emphatically shouldn't be taken at 13 or in the 1st round at all.

Listen to it and see what you think, it is labeled as the film breakdown on 980 website. No link to the clip.

Now is he as talented as Fournette? No, but from a production standpoint I watched every LSU game this season and to say he isnt a 1st round pick at all is asanine. The production is there, he led the SEC in rusbing with Fournette there. Cooley also said just keep picling backs in the 4th and 5th till you find one then said David Johnson was a 5th round pick when he was a 3rd.

EARTHQUAKE2689
04-22-2018, 10:03 AM
Trading back is cool in theory but you have to find a willing partner to trade with and not trade yourself out of a player you actually want just for a pick. (2011 we traded down with JJ Watt on the board and ended up with Kerrigan and Jarvis freaking Jenkins

DYoungJelly
04-22-2018, 10:19 AM
I really don't disagree with you.

I wouldn't be upset if our talent evaluators drafted him based on their grade, not Cooley's at whatever pick matches their grade.

I have read about and totally agree with the idea that college production should be discounted somewhat and traits should be prioritized in assigning grades.

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EARTHQUAKE2689
04-22-2018, 10:23 AM
I really don't disagree with you.

I wouldn't be upset if our talent evaluators drafted him based on their grade, not Cooley's at whatever pick matches their grade.

I have read about and totally agree with the idea that college production should be discounted somewhat and traits should be prioritized in assigning grades.

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Yeah, it is a crap shoot and my top 4 wish list is Guice, James. Fitzpatrick, or Payne

Chico23231
04-22-2018, 11:51 AM
My feeling now is minkah Fitzpatrick is there it’s a no brainer. The Skins would probably reject all offers to move back and take Fitzpatrick. This is the guy they want

DYoungJelly
04-22-2018, 09:24 PM
Just listened to Friday's Cooley show.

He broke down Ronald Johnson USC TH.

Said he is better than Guice and was a perfect fit for our scheme. He is a second round guy which would free up 13 for defense.

He also did breakdowns on Vea and Payne. He said they would instantly become the best run defender on the roster of drafted.

He doesn't like them at 13 because of lack of versatility. It's a really good listen. Goes into strengths and weaknesses.

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KI Skins Fan
04-23-2018, 07:59 AM
My feeling now is minkah Fitzpatrick is there it’s a no brainer. The Skins would probably reject all offers to move back and take Fitzpatrick. This is the guy they want

You say this based on what information?

30gut
04-23-2018, 10:54 AM
Who I want them to take: trade down


My best guess on who they will take: no clue


Most disappointed if they do take: Da'ron Payne

players that I like at pick 13:

Lamar Jackson
Baker Mayfield
Denzel Ward
Derwin James
Josh Jackson
Jaire Alexander
Calvin Ridley
Maurice Hurst - my favorite player but 13 could be "too early" for him but he'll certainly be gone by the next pick
Will Hernandez

Schneed10
04-23-2018, 11:54 AM
My Board. I put a spacer in there intentionally because I feel like there's a talent dropoff at that point. The hope would be one of those guys in the top 9 drop down to us. And if it's any of the QBs then trade down is really in play.

I want a very athletic player out of this first pick. Having it in the secondary would thrill me with James or Minkah. That'd be my first preference.

1) Saquon Barkley
2) Bradley Chubb
3) Quentin Nelson
4) Sam Darnold
5) Minkah Fitzpatrick
6) Josh Rosen
7) Derwin James
8) Roquan Smith
9) Tremaine Edmunds

10) Josh Allen
11) Denzel Ward
12) Vita Vea
13) Marcus Davenport
14) Baker Mayfield
15) Calvin Ridley
16) Josh Jackson
17) Da'Ron Payne

Schneed10
04-23-2018, 11:58 AM
And I should note. Just because I have Calvin Ridley at 15 and Da'Ron Payne at 17 doesn't mean I'd take Ridley over Payne. I think the grades are close enough there that I'd break the tie and go for need.

So maybe I need to tier this a bit more, visually:

1) Saquon Barkley
2) Bradley Chubb
3) Quentin Nelson
4) Sam Darnold
5) Minkah Fitzpatrick
6) Josh Rosen
7) Derwin James
8) Roquan Smith
9) Tremaine Edmunds

10) Josh Allen
11) Denzel Ward

12) Vita Vea
13) Marcus Davenport

14) Baker Mayfield
15) Calvin Ridley
16) Josh Jackson
17) Da'Ron Payne

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