Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.

Gruden has 4 seasons. The first was the remnant of Shanahan defensive blindness.
The next 3 he has won a division championship and hovered around .500. I expect good things this season and if we make the playoffs Gruden shouldnt be anywhere near the hot seat. He and Allen seem to have a relationship that works well unde4 Snyder.

Yea and the last two seasons, the team suffered injuries analogous to a biblical event.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/2017-adjusted-games-lost

I love the passion, I just don't think a drastic shake up is the answer right now.

Right now, I just want to keep going and see what's on the other side of the hill.

Gruden has 4 seasons. The first was the remnant of Shanahan defensive blindness.
The next 3 he has won a division championship and hovered around .500. I expect good things this season and if we make the playoffs Gruden shouldnt be anywhere near the hot seat. He and Allen seem to have a relationship that works well under Snyder.

This is fair if he corrects the 5th preseason game issues.

This is his team with his players and QB. No more excuses.

Ultimately Allen will be judged by his record, just like anyone else. But as with most organizations the higher up the ladder you are, the longer your leash tends to be.

Definitely need to start winning on the field and not just off of it.

Reading a lot of these posts it has become obvious most of the Redskin fans in here have very low expectations.

Reading a lot of these posts it has become obvious most of the Redskin fans in here have very low expectations.

It's due to the years of dysfunction and losing, can't blame anyone for saying or feeling negative things. I believe the team is turning a new leaf and will stay on a positive track but I could also be blind with my skins goggles on. Only time will tell

Bruce has a history of poor decisions, especially at the QB position. Poor personnel decisions and clear dysfunction within organization operations all directly affect the W-L Record of the team.

When Bruce said everyone should be judged by their by their record, he did not mean himself, his front office or ownership. His definition of everyone is not everyone. He meant the disposable employees, not himself.

When Bruce said everyone should be judged by their by their record, he did not mean himself, his front office or ownership. His definition of everyone is not everyone. He meant the disposable employees, not himself.

Exactly. Basically coaches

I think lot of people are underestimating amount of work it takes to build a good team.. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is great GM/President but I think he did good job considering the situation Redskins was in during beginning of Allen's time with Redskins. Let's not forget what DYoung said earlier - the cap penalty, RG3 trade that crippled our future, and Shanahan's terrible job with defense. It is difficult to place entire blame on Allen.

Again, I'm not saying Allen is doing fabulous job, he made few mistakes.. But then no one is perfect.

The bottom line, is that the organization looks ... organized. You don't see the owner influencing drafts and trades. The coaching staff seems to be able to coach. And the talent evaluating staff seems to be doing a good job of evaluating talent, and the cost for said talent.

People who want to blow it up now or fire BA or whatever other action, seem to forget how far the Skins had fallen. People might turn to Philly as an example of an organization turning it around in 2 years, but Philly didn't sink as low as the Skins of the 2000's. We are talking Cleveland levels of incompetence.

You can look at the Skins, and see an organization now that seems to "get it". I can agree that if we get stuck at the 8-8 level that evaluations should be made, but even at 8-8 year in year out, that's better than 10 years of being 4th in the division.

IF that means my sights are set too low so be it. I simply want the Skins to be competitive every year, and IF they are, then playoff wins and even SB wins can follow. BUT blowing up an organization that finally is moving away from incompetence to competence is simply asking for a retread fo the late 2000's.