3 year review : 2013-2016 Drafts

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CRedskinsRule
03-30-2018, 01:20 PM
We got nothing out of the Murphy pick and we traded with Dallas and gave them a pro bowl pass rusher. It’s not s good pick any way you spin it.

Player A vs Player B career stats:
SUMMARY

G AV Sk Tkl FF
47 13 15.0 61 6
48 24 23.5 87 7

CRedskinsRule
03-30-2018, 02:01 PM
A few different sites rankings:
None of these are definitive but to give a general flavor:

https://nypost.com/2017/04/22/studying-5-years-of-nfl-drafts-to-find-best-worst-teams-at-picking/
They rank us 7 over the past 5 years ( They have the Seahawks at number 5)

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/nfl-draft-performance-grades-best-drafting-teams-picks-classes-2012-2016
They have us at number 5, Seahawks at Number 1

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2017/04/28/which-nfl-teams-have-been-the-best-and-worst-at-drafting/#34977d0d5dcd
They have us at 16, Seahawks at 2

https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/nfl-draft-teams-picks-draft-records-ranked-2012-present-030117
They have us at 9, Seahawks at 12.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-teams-five-year-success-by-draft-class
They rank us 12th, Seahawks 3rd

I guess the point of this is that ranking drafting is a pretty damn subjective task. The Skins FO isn't perfect at it, BUT to say that they can't get anything past the 20th pick like you said at one time is not very realistic understanding of how difficult NFL drafting really is.

jamf
03-30-2018, 06:39 PM
Player A vs Player B career stats:
SUMMARY

G AV Sk Tkl FF
47 13 15.0 61 6
48 24 23.5 87 7

You forgot a couple of stats for player B:
Defensive player of the week - 2
Defensive player of the month - 1
Pro bowls - 1
Double digit sack seasons - 1

Player A:
Roid suspensions- 1

CRedskinsRule
03-30-2018, 06:42 PM
You forgot a couple of stats for player B:
Defensive player of the week - 2
Defensive player of the month - 1
Pro bowls - 1
Double digit sack seasons - 1

Player A:
Roid suspensions- 1We also got Spencer Long in that trade.

You can hate on the FO, it's subjective enough and they aren't an elite team, but they aren't incompetent either.

jamf
03-30-2018, 06:55 PM
What 3 teams would you list as top drafting teams from 2013-2015?

Unfortunately I don’t have time to review drafts but I would say any team that has turned their team around the last few years has drafted well.

It’s all about wins.
Redskins win loss record is mediocre just like their drafts.

CRedskinsRule
03-30-2018, 07:01 PM
Unfortunately I don’t have time to review drafts but I would say any team that has turned their team around the last few years has drafted well.

It’s all about wins.
Redskins win loss record is mediocre just like their drafts.That is a false equivalence. There are a lot of factors as to how a team does in the win loss records. The Eagles by all accounts have drafted terribly The Last 5 Years yet they won the Super Bowl. Our drafting has been average to above-average our injuries have been higher, our QB situation / drama has been higher, I would say our coaching has been average, and our win loss record is average or medium. I doubt it's the drafting because you can look at the history and see how the players have panned out and by and large the Redskins drafted players have panned out in the NFL. There are a lot of other factors.

jamf
03-30-2018, 07:03 PM
Well it is a good pick in the way we picked a good player... the failure to retain him doesn't erase the fact he was a good draft choice. Does it?

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Did the team even attempt to sign him?

The Redskins aren’t going to pay him $7mil per year to backup Smith.

Wasted a 2nd round pick for a guy who maxed out at 9 sacks while on steroids.

FrenchSkin
03-31-2018, 08:48 AM
Did the team even attempt to sign him?

The Redskins aren’t going to pay him $7mil per year to backup Smith.

Wasted a 2nd round pick for a guy who maxed out at 9 sacks while on steroids.

I do think I've read they made an offer, but too low too late.

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