mooby
05-27-2018, 11:54 AM
Just a quick reminder..
Alex Smith has made the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years... Once again let that sink in.
Good day all :)
This would be a fantastic point, if he wasn't dependent on 44 other players also making contributions on game day to get the W.
Defensewins
05-27-2018, 01:13 PM
This would be a fantastic point, if he wasn't dependent on 44 other players also making contributions on game day to get the W.
I agree.
In a year when a second string QB that some teams gave up on wins a Super Bowl/MVP over one of the best ever QB's, it is time to stop under-valueing position players and team.
CRedskinsRule
05-27-2018, 08:05 PM
This would be a fantastic point, if he wasn't dependent on 44 other players also making contributions on game day to get the W.But it still points to AS. He has had different coaches, different surrounding players, different schemes. And still he has led his teams to playoff appearances. That reflects on his leadership, ability as a passer, and intangibles like game awareness and selflessnes.
Obviously only time will tell, but i am real high on AS directing Grudens offense.
metalskins
05-29-2018, 02:00 PM
But it still points to AS. He has had different coaches, different surrounding players, different schemes. And still he has led his teams to playoff appearances. That reflects on his leadership, ability as a passer, and intangibles like game awareness and selflessnes.
Obviously only time will tell, but i am real high on AS directing Grudens offense.
I agree. And dependent on 44 other players? Well, the only QB I've seen that has been able to throw a TD pass to himself was Marcus Mariota in the playoffs - even Brady couldn't do that lol!
And I hope Smith IS dependent on 44 other players. That means 44 other players are stepping up to get the W. If it's all on Alex Smith, then that means the rest of the team sucks.
Schneed10
05-29-2018, 03:58 PM
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Ruhskins
05-29-2018, 04:18 PM
^^^^^
In regards to this, I always felt that one of Cousins' biggest issues was connecting in short to intermediate throws. These often happened in 3rd and short situations, which did not help in keeping the opposing offense off the field.
GridIron26
05-29-2018, 05:52 PM
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What does turnover worthy numbers mean? Throwing a ball that results in turnover?
Schneed10
05-29-2018, 06:02 PM
What does turnover worthy numbers mean? Throwing a ball that results in turnover?
This is why PFF is a valuable tool. They watch every throw right - and if a QB throws a ball and a DB gets his hands on it but drops it - they deem it a 'turnover worthy' throw.
Likewise, if the QB drops a dime right on his WR but it hits his WR's hands, bounces up in the air, and is picked off by a safety, that's not a turnover worthy throw.
And if the QB throws it, the DB gets his hands on it and actually makes the interception, that of course goes down as a turnover worthy throw.
It's basically trying to cut through the fortunate and unfortunate bounces of the ball to determine whether a QB was at fault on a throw that either could have or did cause a turnover.
When you plot Smith's turnover worthy % against his big time throw %, he bubbles up to the upper quadrant of the graph in rare company - it's only him and Brady with such strong big time throw %s and such low turnover worthy throw %s.
Worth noting of course that this is reflective of a surrounding cast. I don't think Cousins is as bad as his numbers showed in 2017 - the offensive line was decimated. But I also think that if healthy, Smith will play with a supporting cast on offense that is in no way a step down from what he had in KC. Health of the supporting cast will be key. If it's there, then you'll see performance stronger than what Cousins put up in 2016 when the offense was healthy.
FrenchSkin
05-29-2018, 08:27 PM
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Valuable stats, thanks!
Then, as you mention in your last post, QB probably is the most dependable position on the field. But we finished 7-9 (and were a couple of plays away of 9-7) while being decimated by injuries.
Chico23231
05-29-2018, 08:41 PM
Pff has definitely done a good job bringing more relevant stats to light. Thanks for sharing.