Common sense laws are all any reasonable people are looking for, low hanging fruit like raising the age to 21 and strict background checks. Why is that so much to ask for without the response being you’re coming for our guns
Dan73
02-23-2018, 02:22 PM
I have never seen a gun advertisement showing a young man of good intent walking into a school and shooting the occupants.
I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction.
We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year.
All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have.Yes we have car accidents and there are laws to made to cut down on those. For instance cars have to have all sorts of safety features. And manufacturers can be held liable.
I have never seen fertilizer advertisements showing bomb as an option for it. But start buying a bunch and watch the government come checking.
And let's cut the crap that guns save lives. They do not perform CPR or perform surgery. They just wound or kill others.
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Dan73
02-23-2018, 02:28 PM
Common sense laws are all any reasonable people are looking for, low hanging fruit like raising the age to 21 and strict background checks. Why is that so much to ask for without the response being you’re coming for our gunsActually I want all gun owners to carry insurance. Your kid shoots someone with you gun you bear the costs. Your gun is used in a crime and you didn't report it stolen your financially responsible.
I would also want everyone licensed before they can have one.
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CRedskinsRule
02-23-2018, 02:34 PM
Actually I want all gun owners to carry insurance. Your kid shoots someone with you gun you bear the costs. Your gun is used in a crime and you didn't report it stolen your financially responsible.
I would also want everyone licensed before they can have one.
Sent from my SM-G955W using TapatalkI actually like the insurance idea.
Schneed10
02-23-2018, 02:35 PM
Common sense laws are all any reasonable people are looking for, low hanging fruit like raising the age to 21 and strict background checks. Why is that so much to ask for without the response being you’re coming for our guns
Because their stance, when you strip down all the window dressing and superfluous nonsense, is basically some derivative of "fuck you I like my gun".
It's asinine. Nobody needs an AR15, they do far more harm than good in society so thus should be banned. Background checks should require everyone to sit in front of as many qualified individuals who can assess human behavior and identify mental stability and emotional state.
But ultimately, fuck you, I like my gun.
Schneed10
02-23-2018, 02:37 PM
There are steps to take, but to blame the object (gun) as the primary focus ignores the realities that there are a lot of other steps that can be taken and have more net positive effect.
Completely disagree. The problem in Parkland was that obviously unstable asshole had access to a gun capable of firing a shit ton of rounds in a very short time.
Fixing someone's mental health - the right acts like that's as simple as going to the doctor and getting antibiotics for a sore throat.
Dan73
02-23-2018, 02:40 PM
I actually like the insurance idea.I don't have a problem with responsible gun ownership. I have seen insurance as a step in that direction
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Dan73
02-23-2018, 02:48 PM
Completely disagree. The problem in Parkland was that obviously unstable asshole had access to a gun capable of firing a shit ton of rounds in a very short time.
Fixing someone's mental health - the right acts like that's as simple as going to the doctor and getting antibiotics for a sore throat.One of the big lies used recently is that guns haven't changed. Every gun I used when I was younger had either bolt or pump action or I had to cock the hammer.
Bit more difficult to go on a spree with limited ammo or if you have to manually chamber a round.
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Giantone
02-23-2018, 03:19 PM
I have never seen a gun advertisement showing a young man of good intent walking into a school and shooting the occupants.
I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction.
We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year.
All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have.
See I am against the 21 year rule .I am old but I still believe if I can fight for my country I should be allowed to do everything else ,have a drink,own a gun and rent a car.
I see other ways , to own you must have a license and you must have insurance and yes tax the hell out of ammo and the guns themselves. You must pass a test like you do for a car and finally a physical evaluation.
Because their stance, when you strip down all the window dressing and superfluous nonsense, is basically some derivative of "fuck you I like my gun".
It's asinine. Nobody needs an AR15, they do far more harm than good in society so thus should be banned. Background checks should require everyone to sit in front of as many qualified individuals who can assess human behavior and identify mental stability and emotional state.
But ultimately, fuck you, I like my gun.
Yup, guns > our children too apparently
20 years of this senseless shit and no real changes