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More guns = more problems
Arming teachers is just asinine
Now Trump is blaming video games? So guns in a video game are the problem but not the real ones? Brilliant
Dan73 02-23-2018, 01:14 PM More guns = more problems
Arming teachers is just asinine
Now Trump is blaming video games? So guns in a video game are the problem but not the real ones? BrilliantRap music, Marilyn Manson, video games, medications and parents. But never ever the guns or the ads used to sell them.
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CRedskinsRule 02-23-2018, 01:52 PM More guns = more problems
Arming teachers is just asinine
Now Trump is blaming video games? So guns in a video game are the problem but not the real ones? Brilliant
Sorry Matty, I know we disagree on all this stuff, but the bolded line is pure BS.
Are you saying Baltimore Police should be unarmed? Md has decent gun laws. Again, let the politicians go without their armed guards, and see how that fares.
Bad people doing bad things is bad for those who are devastated by it. Politicians making bad laws immediately after bad things happen is bad for the future of our society.
At least Trump is talking about ALL the aspects, mental health, gun ownership ages, yes, even video games can feed an unhealthy mentality. Liberals want to act like a gun free zone would save the world. It won't, ever.
F it let’s just arm everyone Wild West style
Guns don’t solve problems or prevent them
One of the laziest arguments out there is trying to blame video games
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/02/22/trump-blames-violent-video-games-for-school-shootings-heres-why-hes-wrong/amp/
CRedskinsRule 02-23-2018, 02:01 PM Rap music, Marilyn Manson, video games, medications and parents. But never ever the guns or the ads used to sell them.
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The first sentence looks at what caused a person to do an evil act, and can we reduce or rehabilitate those. The second sentence looks at an inanimate object that has been used to save thousands or tens of thousands of lives when held by people with good intent.
Yes, imo, the focus should be on looking at personal responibility, and getting help to those who need it, BEFORE, they have set in their hearts to do evil.
The Parkland shooting shows us again, the systems were in place to stop it, but the almighty government and the individual guard who were alerted and could have stopped it - failed. It's that simple and tragic. You can ban whatever guns you want, there will always be a way for a person intent on an evil act to accomplish it.
HYPOTHETICAL, suppose Nikolas, instead of using a gun, had plowed his car through the parking lot, would you be calling on an end to high schoolers being able to park on school property? Of course not, and driving kills far more people per year than gun violence. And it's not a protected right in the Bill of Rights.
Dan73 02-23-2018, 02:08 PM The first sentence looks at what caused a person to do an evil act, and can we reduce or rehabilitate those. The second sentence looks at an inanimate object that has been used to save thousands or tens of thousands of lives when held by people with good intent.
Yes, imo, the focus should be on looking at personal responibility, and getting help to those who need it, BEFORE, they have set in their hearts to do evil.
The Parkland shooting shows us again, the systems were in place to stop it, but the almighty government and the individual guard who were alerted and could have stopped it - failed. It's that simple and tragic. You can ban whatever guns you want, there will always be a way for a person intent on an evil act to accomplish it.
HYPOTHETICAL, suppose Nikolas, instead of using a gun, had plowed his car through the parking lot, would you be calling on an end to high schoolers being able to park on school property? Of course not, and driving kills far more people per year than gun violence. And it's not a protected right in the Bill of Rights.First off cars aren't designed to take lives. They are not promoted as ways to deal with other people with whom you have conflict up to including the government.
When I was younger you bought a hunting rifle now you buy an assault rifle.
When cars are advertised as ways to deal with other people then make laws to reduce that happening.
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Dan73 02-23-2018, 02:10 PM F it let’s just arm everyone Wild West style
Guns don’t solve problems or prevent themThat is the gun manufacturers wet dream. Everyone gets so scared they run out and buy guns.
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CRedskinsRule 02-23-2018, 02:16 PM First off cars aren't designed to take lives. They are not promoted as ways to deal with other people with whom you have conflict up to including the government.
When I was younger you bought a hunting rifle now you buy an assault rifle.
When cars are advertised as ways to deal with other people then make laws to reduce that happening.
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I have never seen a gun advertisement showing a young man of good intent walking into a school and shooting the occupants.
I have seen terrorists in NY London Germany and Paris use vehicles as weapons of destruction.
We see more deaths by cars then by guns every year.
All that said, add background checks and raise the age to 21 for non-military. It will be as illegal then to use it as it was when Nikolas went into that school. The laws on the books did not stop him. But preventive steps could have.
CRedskinsRule 02-23-2018, 02:19 PM F it let’s just arm everyone Wild West style
Guns don’t solve problems or prevent them
There are steps to take, but to blame the object (gun) as the primary focus ignores the realities that there are a lot of other steps that can be taken and have more net positive effect.
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