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sdskinsfan2001 06-02-2022, 11:21 AM I think we all agree that we need to make it harder for children, teenagers, criminals, and mentally ill people from obtaining weapons.
The thing we don't agree on, is completely banning all Americans from obtaining whichever guns they prefer.
mooby 06-02-2022, 12:01 PM I wouldn't respond except you called me out - and it's all BS.
I am not against making AR-15s or any other guns less accessible, or harder to get. It's quite clear that not everyone should own one. I'm just not for banning them completely - which is what you guys want to do.
I'm not against funding teachers. My wife is a teacher. That's just an ignorant assumption.
The one thing you said that was true is that I'll do anything except blame the gun. That is a fact. Just like I won't blame the car for running people over, or the bat for bashing someone's head in. I'll blame the person who pulled the trigger, the person who was behind the wheel, and the person who was wielding the bat - a l l d a y l o n g.
Look, we have had guns in this country for a long damn time - and way more accessible to kids than they are today.
Why do you think kids are picking them up or seeking them out and using them more today than they were in previous years?
This is absolute dumb shit. Nobody in this forum has specifically called for banning assault rifles. Any of us would compromise for better background checks or red flag laws. But when we say that we get ignored.
Conservatives always gravitate to the liberal yelling the most extreme option. This country is going to shit.
You aren't against funding teachers - but your conservative representatives who approve budgets sure as shit don't fucking care about helping them. All their policies today are aimed at making sure they don't teach your kids liberal propaganda.
I thought this was pretty cool - with this commonly available illegal switch (https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/criminal-justice/2021/10/13/410787/hpd-cop-killer-used-illegal-switch-to-make-gun-fully-automatic/) from China you can turn your semi-auto Glock into a fully auto Glock. Warning: cop death (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/v32qxe/92021_houston_criminal_with_a_fully_automatic_gun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Giantone 06-02-2022, 12:17 PM I never said I want to try "anything", which means "everything". You continue to have a difficult time comprehending what is posted on here. I am not sure how to help you.
Just because I won't support a ban on a semi-automatic rifle doesn't mean I don't care. There are other ways to attack this issue. We just have to all get on board with doing that.
That is the thing, to many that is exactly what it means. We just have to get on Board with doing that.
Giantone 06-02-2022, 12:20 PM This is absolute dumb shit. Nobody in this forum has specifically called for banning assault rifles. Any of us would compromise for better background checks or red flag laws. But when we say that we get ignored.
Conservatives always gravitate to the liberal yelling the most extreme option. This country is going to shit.
You aren't against funding teachers - but your conservative representatives who approve budgets sure as shit don't fucking care about helping them. All their policies today are aimed at making sure they don't teach your kids liberal propaganda.
I thought this was pretty cool - with this commonly available illegal switch (https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/criminal-justice/2021/10/13/410787/hpd-cop-killer-used-illegal-switch-to-make-gun-fully-automatic/) from China you can turn your semi-auto Glock into a fully auto Glock. Warning: cop death (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/v32qxe/92021_houston_criminal_with_a_fully_automatic_gun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
Actually banning AR -15's is a start. Should we ban all guns ,no, should we go to house's and confiscate guns ,no. Banning the weapon of choice to most mass murders is a good start.
What I think is you handle guns like a car.
Must be 21 years old.
Before you get a license ,you take a test and renew that license every 5 years(give or take)
All guns must be registered , you want a hundred guns fine but register them
You must carry liability Insurance for your guns.
All lost or stolen guns must be reported to the Police, if not then Owner of record gets the same time as the criminal offender.
sdskinsfan2001 06-02-2022, 12:23 PM That is the thing, to many that is exactly what it means. We just have to get on Board with doing that.
Can you clarify further on what this post means? I am not understanding what you are trying to say here.
Giantone 06-02-2022, 12:28 PM Can you clarify further on what this post means? I am not understanding what you are trying to say here.
Go back through the thread it will explain itself.
Chief X_Phackter 06-02-2022, 12:53 PM This is absolute dumb shit. Nobody in this forum has specifically called for banning assault rifles. Any of us would compromise for better background checks or red flag laws. But when we say that we get ignored.
Conservatives always gravitate to the liberal yelling the most extreme option. This country is going to shit.
You aren't against funding teachers - but your conservative representatives who approve budgets sure as shit don't fucking care about helping them. All their policies today are aimed at making sure they don't teach your kids liberal propaganda.
I thought this was pretty cool - with this commonly available illegal switch (https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/criminal-justice/2021/10/13/410787/hpd-cop-killer-used-illegal-switch-to-make-gun-fully-automatic/) from China you can turn your semi-auto Glock into a fully auto Glock. Warning: cop death (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/v32qxe/92021_houston_criminal_with_a_fully_automatic_gun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3).
...Nobody needs an AR15, they do far more harm than good in society so thus should be banned...
...Obviously no guns in our country would have thrown a wrench in his plans but we are so saturated with gums now it’s nearly impossible to rid our country of guns...
...at no point does the second Amendment say you have a God given right as an American to own a assault weapon...
...Is there any reason why an average person needs an AR-15?
...IMO the AR 15 falls in the too much power for the average Joe who doesn't even need it so why not eliminate it.
Regarding mredskins post: I agree with you... and used an atomic bomb as an example and while it was spun it was never answered.
So why own a AR 15 i am looking for a valid reason?
Actually banning AR -15's is a start...
Sorry Moob, but you're wrong.
The "dumb shit" is you calling me out - putting me in a bucket (you, y'all, you're people..), and then balking when I return the favor.
BTW, an AR-15 isn't an "assault rifle". Some want to label it as such, but that is not what it is.
Asking why someone needs an AR-15 isn't the same as calling for a ban so please don't lump me in with the pro banning crowd.
I'm perfectly fine with responsible gun owners having one, but I also think it's perfectly fine to question why civilians need military style weapons.
Chief X_Phackter 06-02-2022, 01:24 PM Asking why someone needs an AR-15 isn't the same as calling for a ban so please don't lump me in with the pro banning crowd.
I'm perfectly fine with responsible gun owners having one, but I also think it's perfectly fine to question why civilians need military style weapons.
Sorry, I thought that was acceptable practice on here...jumping to conclusions, making assumptions, and lumping people into certain categories... Maybe only one side can do that...
Is it the style we are concerned about or the function. Because there is a distinct difference.
It's the function that makes a weapon an assault rifle/weapon, not the "style".
AR doesn't equal Assault Rifle or military style weapon. It's merely a semi-automatic rifle. Can it be modified to be more dangerous - to fit the category of an assault rifle? Yes...but that is illegal.
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