Parkland Shooting

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CRedskinsRule
02-15-2018, 05:09 PM
Well, first, my vote is local, isn't it? I'd be voting for my representative to US Congress, the 7th PA district. And I'd be voting for my US Senator from PA. And I'd be voting for my state reps, and my township council, etc.

I would insist on voting for those representatives who would be willing to enact policies that would be stronger than are currently on the books, because I'm not satisfied with the efforts at a local level any more than I am on a national level.

In fact I just started a post in my local school district's PTO Facebook page as to whether there are any laws on the books that would prevent our school district from hiring armed security to be stationed on our school campuses. I'd be more interested in tangible actions at the local level to specifically protect my children.

See that all makes sense to me.

JPPT1974
02-15-2018, 06:44 PM
Really another shooting as it seems gun control all talk no action. Need more the latter for sure.

MTK
02-15-2018, 07:09 PM
The cuts in Medicaid should go a long way in providing sufficient mental health services

mooby
02-15-2018, 07:11 PM
The response was appropriate, definitely more presidential then the norm.

I'm indifferent to it because any gun control legislation will probably be shot down, no pun intended, and we'll forget about it until the next one. Sucks for the families that lost their kids. Hiring armed security guards for the schools would be nice, but how many underfunded public schools can afford more than 1 armed security guard? I heard a rumor that this particular school had an armed guard and the kid still managed to be effective.

Ok so the solution is armed teachers? That's fine and dandy, provided it's optional and not mandatory. But how many teachers do you know that would be able to effectively confront an active shooter most likely armed with an assault rifle (as that seems to be the weapon of choice in mass shootings)? What if the teacher shoots an innocent kid while they're trying to take down the shooter?

Budgeting for more than 1 SRO isn't gonna happen, esp. with Devos' plan to divert public school funding to more optional school choices like the one she grew up with. Arming teachers works in theory, but this assumes there are plenty of teachers who want to be armed and also have the training necessary to confront an active shooter. And forget taking mental health seriously, that costs money that we don't have.

So RIP innocent kids, thoughts and prayers to all the innocent families torn apart by this tragedy, and in a week or so everything will be back to normal until the next one (ETA 2-4 months for mass casaulties, 1-2 weeks for specific target being shot).

MTK
02-15-2018, 07:52 PM
Time to build walls around our schools

MTK
02-15-2018, 08:19 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-ended-rule-block-mentally-ill-guns/story?id=53113891

Giantone
02-15-2018, 08:40 PM
That's a talking point stat. Political garbage that is exactly what we don't need in trying to solve the problems.

As for Trump. Hate all you want but we will have a tax cut, a 2 year bipartisan budget and shortly a bipartisan immigration plan on his watch. If he really sets this as a priority, and he will, there will be a real plan to fix it coming out by june.



That is exactly what we need ...............TO TALK and to SOLVE the situationit's only political garbage as you put it to the side who doesn't want to do anything about it.


The rest of your response has nothing to do with the Mass shooting at a Florida High school,nothing.



Oh and trump thinks the other students could have done more to stop this. Putting the blame on the other high school students ,what an asshole trump is.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-florida-students-done-150722680.html

BaltimoreSkins
02-15-2018, 10:31 PM
Let me ask Schneed most mass shootings happen in heavily democratic areas. Why would you boycott Republicans when they don't have as many in their localities? In my opinion the democrats fixation on a gun control solution is the biggest obstacle to solving this. The democrats refuse to look at obvious solutions like emergency action plans and including armed security. Gun control advocates block all other rational discussions.

This is simply not true. First that assumes that democratic areas are in a void without inputs and outputs from surrounding areas. It is well documented that Chicago's plight involves an influx of guns from areas with far more liberal gun regulations. The pipeline from VA to Baltimore, Philly and NYC is equally documented. Furthermore the states with highest per capita gun violence all have republican leadership https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm

I also disagree that dems refuse to look at valid solutions. For example Baltimore County votes democrat yet requires all high schools to have a school resource officer that not only patrols but has an office in the school. I confess I do not have the answers I do agree that improved diagnosis and monitoring of mental illness but it is irrelevant if we continue to allow diagnosed individuals access to guns like we did with Devin Patrick Kelley. I also think that republicans are very complicit in not establishing dialogue by completely dismissing the idea of gun control, tougher regulations like closing the boyfriend loophole, which also would've been applicable in Kelley's situation.

MTK
02-15-2018, 10:32 PM
Empty bullshit.



Do something politicians or shut the fuck up. I'm voting Dem until we get a solution.


Tired of it too. Someone shoots up a school, innocent people die, thoughts and prayers, rinse and repeat. No change, no action, just hollow words. See you next time.

Do something already for fucks sake.

CRedskinsRule
02-15-2018, 11:39 PM
I think everyone agrees politicians in both parties are complicit.

There just needs to be real dialogue instead of platitudes and blame from both sides. I just don't know how we get the politicians to do that.

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