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skinsfaninok
02-09-2018, 09:57 AM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2017-nfl-season?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paidsocial&utm_campaign=101p020818

Fuller and Smith both made the list, had TW not been injured all yr he would have made it again and Scherff should be on this but whatever

Giantone
02-09-2018, 10:16 AM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-101-players-from-the-2017-nfl-season?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paidsocial&utm_campaign=101p020818

Fuller and Smith both made the list, had TW not been injured all yr he would have made it again and Scherff should be on this but whatever
So what is the "edge" position??? There either Linebackers or Defensive Ends...no such thing as edge.

btfoom
02-09-2018, 10:41 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/08/49ers-jimmy-garoppolo-agree-to-five-year-deal/

dude got paid off of 5 games, unreal

Jimmy G gets $137 M for 5 years to equal about 27.5M a yr

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Redskins FO deserves credit for getting Alex Smith for MUCH less. Kirk would want something in this range which (a) he's not worth and (b) much more importantly, would cripple the Skins salary cap.

sdskinsfan2001
02-09-2018, 11:02 AM
Only issue with that theory is QB's dont fall off trees, if you have a franchise guy like an Rodgers, BrADY, BIG BEN, Wilson, you pay those guys.

Kirk Cousins is not an elite level QB and that is why we let him go, why pay him Jimmy $ and fuck your team over as CT said in his interview... Alex Smith is just as good as Kirk IMO and he is making 6-7M less a yr.

Yeah, if you know you have a sure fire 100% stud like Rodgers, pull the trigger, but not for anything less than that.

What a great time to be an NFL QB.

sdskinsfan2001
02-09-2018, 11:14 AM
Its a huge difference between 27.5 and 23.5 million, plus Kirk will most likely top that.

Look at all these players or combination of players you can find in the 4 million or less range.

Give me Alex Smith, plus (insert player/players) > Cousins by himself hogging all the money.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/salary.htm

FrenchSkin
02-09-2018, 11:45 AM
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Redskins FO deserves credit for getting Alex Smith for MUCH less. Kirk would want something in this range which (a) he's not worth and (b) much more importantly, would cripple the Skins salary cap.Agreed.

From what I understood, Smith got a 4 years extension worth 23,5M/yr right?

His current contract pays him 17M (according to sportrac) to 20,6M (according to overthecap) in 2018.

Not a contract expert but anyway for next year that's 7M to 10,5M less than Jimmy G and it might be 10M to 13M less than what Kirk will get !

I'm happy with this. Football is a team sport, need 11 players on the field and 53 on your roster.

One way to put it is: is Kirk worth Alex Smith + a solid starter like Cameron Heyward, Larry Fitzgerald, Cameron Jordan or Luke Kuelchy (to name a few guys making 10M to 13M) ?

My short answer is no.

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skinsfaninok
02-09-2018, 11:48 AM
When you have a guy like Chris come out and say you cant pay a QB 30M and help build a good team, that says a lot. This is coming from one of our best players not some bench player. Also as it has been mentioned , who has come out and said their goodbyes to kirk? NOBODY

FrenchSkin
02-09-2018, 11:48 AM
Its a huge difference between 27.5 and 23.5 million, plus Kirk will most likely top that.

Look at all these players or combination of players you can find in the 4 million or less range.

Give me Alex Smith, plus (insert player/players) > Cousins by himself hogging all the money.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/salary.htm

Haha we just had the exact same thinking and posted at the same time!

Except for next year the cap space saved may very well be in the 10M range or above!

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sdskinsfan2001
02-09-2018, 11:52 AM
Haha we just had the exact same thinking and posted at the same time!

Except for next year the cap space saved may very well be in the 10M range or above!

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Yeah, I was just basing mine off the average of his extension. But we agree, we're in better position with Alex Smith to build a great roster the next few years, including this one especially.

FrenchSkin
02-09-2018, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I was just basing mine off the average of his extension. But we agree, we're in better position with Alex Smith to build a great roster the next few years, including this one especially.From what I get, his salary for 2018 didn't change (17 to 20M) and then we enter the 4 year 94M extension (23,5M/year).

So overall, that's 20M+94M/5years= 22,8M/year !

I like that number, especially after Jimmy G's contract, can't wait to see what Kirk gets. I kinda hope it's an insane amount of money so I can be happy for him and for us !

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