I am not sure I agree. Over the last three years AS has been sacked more times than KC despite KC have more pass attempts. KCs worst year in sack % is last year at 7.1% per dropback is still lower than AS career average of 7.8%. I cannot speak completely for the 49ers/Chiefs o-line for his career or the chiefs for the last three years. I do not the skins pass pro is pretty good so I do imagine that has something to do with it. I do like where it has headed the last two years with AS however. If he can keep it around 6% I would be happy.
Kirk also didnt play von Miller twice alot of these years lol, ok.
skinsfaninok
02-19-2018, 10:16 AM
Joe Flacco’s last three years: 20-22, 52 touchdowns, 40 picks. Meh.
Since getting that pay day
DYoungJelly
02-19-2018, 02:07 PM
Sometimes the QB has to make the plays late in games to get the W, that is why the QB is such a coveted POS, Smith made those plays against us on MNF and he also made them against the Eagles early on in the season. Yeah u have to have help but Kirk had as much help as anyone in 2016, HE HAD to make a play and HE COULDN'T do it. Stats don't always show it all
Our D gave away several games in 2016. You might be cherry picking just a little.
If I was going to cherry pick in favor of Kirk, how about the throw against all out blitz to Doctson in Seattle this year. He had to make a play and absolutely came through.
I get what your saying and agree that Smith is probably better off schedule, he has way more game and situational experience as well. I disagree in that I don't think it is that black and white.
skinsfaninok
02-19-2018, 02:13 PM
Our D gave away several games in 2016. You might be cherry picking just a little.
If I was going to cherry pick in favor of Kirk, how about the throw against all out blitz to Doctson in Seattle this year. He had to make a play and absolutely came through.
I get what your saying and agree that Smith is probably better off schedule, he has way more game and situational experience as well. I disagree in that I don't think it is that black and white.
The Seattle game was a great performance by Kirk without numbers, he was clutch. He's a good QB but he often seems lost back there and just takes the sacks.
sdskinsfan2001
02-19-2018, 06:04 PM
Was watching NFL Live earlier, and Louis Riddick & Bill Polian said we did an excellent job getting AS. Riddick said we definitely upgraded at QB.
Giantone
02-19-2018, 09:47 PM
Kirk also didnt play von Miller twice alot of these years lol, ok.
KC all so didn't have Andy Reid as a coach,pretty sure he help Smith be a better QB. Gruden is a good coach but Reid is a better coach.
I'm almost at the end of the gruden rope. We'll see what happens
WillH
02-22-2018, 11:36 PM
Man I really can't wait to see what other talent they put around Smith and what they'll do with it. Dudes supposedly a genius, and apparently had more and more say in the offense with trust from Reid. I'm hopeful that a smart QB with buy in and Gruden together focused on building something can become one of the more creative duos. I think they've the potential, Gruden has a good track record with QBs and seems to scheme well, I'm curious to see what he can do now with a veteran QB that has gotten better throughout his career and has total buy in.
What additional weapons do you want around him next year?
I was getting a little hyped on Landry, but that ship has sailed. There's not allot in Free Agency, I like cooleys take on Dion Lewis, but there's also a lot of talent in the draft.
Christian Kirk, Sony Michel, Mark Andrews are the guys from the draft I'd get really excited about and that I think would play to Smith's strengths historically.
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Schneed10
02-22-2018, 11:54 PM
A healthy Jordan Reed would go a long way. And then some speed on the outside.
FrenchSkin
02-23-2018, 04:22 AM
Man I really can't wait to see what other talent they put around Smith and what they'll do with it. Dudes supposedly a genius, and apparently had more and more say in the offense with trust from Reid. I'm hopeful that a smart QB with buy in and Gruden together focused on building something can become one of the more creative duos. I think they've the potential, Gruden has a good track record with QBs and seems to scheme well, I'm curious to see what he can do now with a veteran QB that has gotten better throughout his career and has total buy in.
What additional weapons do you want around him next year?
I was getting a little hyped on Landry, but that ship has sailed. There's not allot in Free Agency, I like cooleys take on Dion Lewis, but there's also a lot of talent in the draft.
Christian Kirk, Sony Michel, Mark Andrews are the guys from the draft I'd get really excited about and that I think would play to Smith's strengths historically.
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I was high on Landry too. Curious on who we're going to get. We need a number one WR, badly.
Not sure we're confident we're going to find him in the draft, plug and play rookie WRs are not easy to find. Watkins? Richardson? Marqise Lee?
I just saw Jeremy Hill should be available (Cincinnati Bengals pending free agent Jeremy Hill tweets goodbye to Cincy (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22285044/cincinnati-bengals-pending-free-agent-jeremy-hill-tweets-goodbye-cincy)) he could be a viable option, right?