Redskins trade for Alex Smith


rocnrik
02-11-2018, 02:38 PM
I don't believe that Cousins was ever going to sign a long term deal..When he rubbed Scotts hair after that comeback win and said something to him that showed me He was fed up and wanted out..Later we find out Scott himself is not sold on Kirk as the elite/franchise QB..I STILL say if Cousins does not throw that pick late in the Giants game and we had won that game and got in the playoffs there would have been a huge push to get it done..I just hope that nothing crazy happens to screw up Smiths deal and this team learns from this and moves on.

SolidSnake84
02-11-2018, 06:36 PM
A lot can happen between now and the official time that Alex Smith signs. If Cousins gets tagged again, there's a chance, however small, that the redskins go back to KC and tell them that the deal is off. There is also the chance the Allen tags Cousins with the exclusive tag, just to spite him and keep him from getting to be free, and choosing to keep Cousins on the bench while playing Smith. But some say that move could have the Redskins face lawsuits / backlash from the NFLPA, that states the franchise tag is meant to be used by teams hoping to reach a long term deal, and not to punish / spite a player. As crazy as all of those scenarios happen, you have to remember who owns the team, and who is running things, which means that they shouldn't sound that crazy at all.

FrenchSkin
02-11-2018, 06:48 PM
A lot can happen between now and the official time that Alex Smith signs. If Cousins gets tagged again, there's a chance, however small, that the redskins go back to KC and tell them that the deal is off. There is also the chance the Allen tags Cousins with the exclusive tag, just to spite him and keep him from getting to be free, and choosing to keep Cousins on the bench while playing Smith. But some say that move could have the Redskins face lawsuits / backlash from the NFLPA, that states the franchise tag is meant to be used by teams hoping to reach a long term deal, and not to punish / spite a player. As crazy as all of those scenarios happen, you have to remember who owns the team, and who is running things, which means that they shouldn't sound that crazy at all.Keeping both just isn't happening. 20M + 34M for one position?

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MTK
02-11-2018, 07:31 PM
Sigh...

SkinsGuru
02-12-2018, 11:22 AM
What are you talking about? Or is this more of fans smearing a player because our idiot front office messed up again?

It's like some bizarro world where people freak out the Skins traded a situational player with promise (hate to see the reaction if the Skins traded an every game starter). But when the Skins let our own QB go rather than pay X money, then sign another QB for around the same amount, it's the player's fault! lol.

sorry, but cousins is all about the money . . . how many times did he say he would love to keep playing in washington . . . yet he wouldn't even negotiate . . . he was doing nothing more than blowing smoke up fans asses in an attempt to gain the sympathy vote and its simple as that . . . he was a good liar . . . but lied constantly if you look at the things he said and then how he actually acted away from the podium.

skinsfaninok
02-12-2018, 11:31 AM
I don't believe that Cousins was ever going to sign a long term deal..When he rubbed Scotts hair after that comeback win and said something to him that showed me He was fed up and wanted out..Later we find out Scott himself is not sold on Kirk as the elite/franchise QB..I STILL say if Cousins does not throw that pick late in the Giants game and we had won that game and got in the playoffs there would have been a huge push to get it done..I just hope that nothing crazy happens to screw up Smiths deal and this team learns from this and moves on.

That pick was rough and still hard to swallow as fans, we don't make the playoffs often and we had a chance to go back 2 back that would have been huge for the team. He was awful in that game.

Meks
02-12-2018, 11:52 AM
That pick was rough and still hard to swallow as fans, we don't make the playoffs often and we had a chance to go back 2 back that would have been huge for the team. He was awful in that game.

I cant think of many late in the season games that the team as a whole wasnt "awful" -- while a win is a win, even some of those late wins going back a while were nothing that impressive.

Schneed10
02-12-2018, 12:01 PM
That pick was rough and still hard to swallow as fans, we don't make the playoffs often and we had a chance to go back 2 back that would have been huge for the team. He was awful in that game.

Agree. I think Cousins has a little bit of spaz in him. I think he has a tendency to get very nervous in big moments.

He's not typically good in Week 1 games - there's a lot of buildup to them of course and until he gets his feet wet his Week 1 games are usually a problem. And then in games where the stakes are high, like that Giants game, he forced himself into a bad and unnecessary decision.

I can see it on his face in those games. You can tell he's nervous. Maybe he gets better with that over time as he gains experience. But I think there's something in his personality - I think he just gets uptight in the big moments.

It might also stem from practicing too safely - Gruden might be onto something there. If you constantly check down to the safer play, even in practice, are you going to be ready to make the big, difficult play in a crunch moment?

If you go strictly by Cousins' numbers he's a top 5 QB, but all of these little things are reflective of why he's more like a 10-15 type QB. He's not going to put a team on his back and pull through in a huge moment. At least he hasn't shown that very often thus far.

skinsfaninok
02-12-2018, 12:13 PM
Agree. I think Cousins has a little bit of spaz in him. I think he has a tendency to get very nervous in big moments.

He's not typically good in Week 1 games - there's a lot of buildup to them of course and until he gets his feet wet his Week 1 games are usually a problem. And then in games where the stakes are high, like that Giants game, he forced himself into a bad and unnecessary decision.

I can see it on his face in those games. You can tell he's nervous. Maybe he gets better with that over time as he gains experience. But I think there's something in his personality - I think he just gets uptight in the big moments.

It might also stem from practicing too safely - Gruden might be onto something there. If you constantly check down to the safer play, even in practice, are you going to be ready to make the big, difficult play in a crunch moment?

If you go strictly by Cousins' numbers he's a top 5 QB, but all of these little things are reflective of why he's more like a 10-15 type QB. He's not going to put a team on his back and pull through in a huge moment. At least he hasn't shown that very often thus far.

He's great week 2 - 14 ish, then for some reason the last few weeks he isn't that great, esp against the Giants, he is god awful vs them.

Meks
02-12-2018, 12:21 PM
Agree. I think Cousins has a little bit of spaz in him. I think he has a tendency to get very nervous in big moments.

He's not typically good in Week 1 games - there's a lot of buildup to them of course and until he gets his feet wet his Week 1 games are usually a problem. And then in games where the stakes are high, like that Giants game, he forced himself into a bad and unnecessary decision.

I can see it on his face in those games. You can tell he's nervous. Maybe he gets better with that over time as he gains experience. But I think there's something in his personality - I think he just gets uptight in the big moments.

It might also stem from practicing too safely - Gruden might be onto something there. If you constantly check down to the safer play, even in practice, are you going to be ready to make the big, difficult play in a crunch moment?

If you go strictly by Cousins' numbers he's a top 5 QB, but all of these little things are reflective of why he's more like a 10-15 type QB. He's not going to put a team on his back and pull through in a huge moment. At least he hasn't shown that very often thus far.

I'm 100% in line with this and have felt this way for a few years. This is really what drives my non-desire to pay him all that money just because of continuity and the market driving his price up.

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