Redskins trade for Alex Smith


FrenchSkin
01-31-2018, 05:11 PM
Nobody cares about winning trades. It’s always about wins on the field. It’s a move that could work out well for both sides.

I completely agree. I like Alex Smith a lot, so I like the situation of this team a LOT better now than last week.

I was trying to say, as a Redskins fan, I don't feel like saying that I "LOVE" the trade itself.

But I can say I'm happy about it, and feeling good about what it means for the future of this team!

mooby
01-31-2018, 05:21 PM
Both teams won the trade. KC saves 17mm and the Redskins save 11+ mm on what it would have taken to tag or keep Cousins. Fuller is the cost of doing business to get a starting QB. We get a compensatory pick in the third round for Cousins next year. All other vet QB's on the market aren't as good as these two players.

Anyone who is mad is not realistic about the situation. Kirk did not want to stay here. He had them by the balls and this was their way out.

He had us by the balls because of our incompetent FO. The same FO who is still (and will be for the foreseeable future) making the big decisions.

Aka "man, they sure did a great job digging us out of this totally self-inflicted hole they put us in."

We already have enough problems without our FO creating more to be solved.

BTW there's no way with this new contract we are saving 11 mil a year over Cousins. The difference is there, definitely not that big though.

Can't wait until Smith is dinking and dunking us down the field and we're all complaining about how he isn't as aggressive as Cousins.

MTK
01-31-2018, 05:29 PM
He had us by the balls because of our incompetent FO. The same FO who is still (and will be for the foreseeable future) making the big decisions.

Aka "man, they sure did a great job digging us out of this totally self-inflicted hole they put us in."

We already have enough problems without our FO creating more to be solved.

BTW there's no way with this new contract we are saving 11 mil a year over Cousins. The difference is there, definitely not that big though.

Can't wait until Smith is dinking and dunking us down the field and we're all complaining about how he isn't as aggressive as Cousins.


Given the fact we can’t go back in time and sign Cousins to a LTD before the back to back tag nonsense, what solution would you be ok with right now?

WillH
01-31-2018, 05:31 PM
Here's a question, if you have somebody on a transition tag, Can you trade them to another team? And If so, does that team then inherit rights of 1st refusal while the Player seeks offers from other teams?

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HailGreen28
01-31-2018, 05:33 PM
Nobody cares about winning trades. It’s always about wins on the field. It’s a move that could work out well for both sides.

I think the Skins getting Smith does help Cousins in one way. Removes a competitor from free agency.

MTK
01-31-2018, 05:40 PM
Here's a question, if you have somebody on a transition tag, Can you trade them to another team? And If so, does that team then inherit rights of 1st refusal while the Player seeks offers from other teams?

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Quite simply, no

rocnrik
01-31-2018, 05:40 PM
Smith throws long ball better than Cousins! He has way more postseason games than Cousins..he comes in a lot cheaper than Cousins. Maybe Doctson will have a new breath of life with Smith! looking for positives about this deal!!

SCRedskinsFan
01-31-2018, 05:41 PM
I still say this was the best available option left for Washington.

However, that being said, nothing can diminish the fact that the front office is replacing a 29-year old starting QB with a career passer rating of 93.7 with a 33-year old QB with a career passer rating of 87.4. They surrendered a very talented CB and a 3rd round pick as well. All it did for the Chiefs was give them 17 million more in cap room and make their defense better.

The irony of the deal is they are paying the 33-year old today, what they could have signed the 29-year old for 2 years ago.

20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Had we offered KC this contract 2 years most of us would have gone ballistic. And we should have, KC was nowhere near earning this kind of contract 2 years ago.

HailGreen28
01-31-2018, 05:44 PM
Both teams won the trade. KC saves 17mm and the Redskins save 11+ mm on what it would have taken to tag or keep Cousins. Fuller is the cost of doing business to get a starting QB. We get a compensatory pick in the third round for Cousins next year. All other vet QB's on the market aren't as good as these two players.

Anyone who is mad is not realistic about the situation. Kirk did not want to stay here. He had them by the balls and this was their way out.

Again, we lost a 3rd round pick. And there's no guarantee we will get a 3rd round comp pick to make up for it.

KC got a decent CB with potential, a 3rd round pick, and saved $. All they had to give up was a 33 yo QB (will be 34 next season) they were ready to let go anyways.

WASH gave up the aforementioned player and pick, saved $. And will either let a 30 yo QB they know works well in their system go for nothing (maybe a 3rd rd don't count on it) or trans tag him for a trade. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

KC did well this deal. WASH actually didn't do bad getting Alex Smith but it doesn't cover up their failure signing Cousins. We basically gave a pick and player for the privilege of getting a 3-4 year older QB.

SCRedskinsFan
01-31-2018, 05:47 PM
He had us by the balls because of our incompetent FO. The same FO who is still (and will be for the foreseeable future) making the big decisions.

Aka "man, they sure did a great job digging us out of this totally self-inflicted hole they put us in."

We already have enough problems without our FO creating more to be solved.

BTW there's no way with this new contract we are saving 11 mil a year over Cousins. The difference is there, definitely not that big though.

Can't wait until Smith is dinking and dunking us down the field and we're all complaining about how he isn't as aggressive as Cousins.


So Mooby, tell us what the front office should have done 2 years ago. Offer him a long term deal? Did you object to the “prove it” tag?

Let’s just say that Kirk rolled the dice and won. And got lucky that he didn’t get injured, at least in part because the team invested in a decent O-line. Game was over for the FO once he made it through the season before last.

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